Hopping Freight Trains with the Dirty Kids

Cool story and photos. And their final destination? My neighborhood in Venice Beach...

We have lots of 'kids' like this here, aggressively pan handling but not wanting to work. And the story explains why. They made $107 in 3 hours panhandling on a free way on ramp. Why clean up and get a job when u can take advantage of the good will of others?
 
These photographers are examining the edges of society. Not very different from those who explore the edges of metropolitan cities, instead of the downtown core. Huss, as usual, infuses the debate with middle-class values. It's all good.
 
Interesting story, and some great photos. I agree, sensitively handled by a photographer who seems to have become part of the story, rather than just documenting it.
 
Panhandling is also a form of work, their time is spent panhandling so they can't do something that would be considered fun and spare time. I also find it funny that if you are big multinational who gets more tax Dollars and funding than anyone else you are a considered a success and a paragon to Society but if you do something like panhandling that is less destructive to Society than some deals etc... from aforementioned multinationals you are considered dirt.

Nice photos and thanks for the link.
 
Panhandling is also a form of work, their time is spent panhandling so they can't do something that would be considered fun and spare time. I also find it funny that if you are big multinational who gets more tax Dollars and funding than anyone else you are a considered a success and a paragon to Society but if you do something like panhandling that is less destructive to Society than some deals etc... from aforementioned multinationals you are considered dirt.

Nice photos and thanks for the link.

I think many people see a moral difference between those who are homeless or live a nomadic lifestyle and rely upon the kindness of others to survive depending whether they are voluntarily or involuntarily in this state. Those who give may feel as though their sympathies have been manipulated in the case of those who prefer to panhandle rather than obtain employment.

I will say this - I have seen many signs that say "Homeless, please help" or words to that effect, and I do give when I can. Am I being taken advantage of? Perhaps. I am not going to judge that or even think about it.

However, I have seldom seen signs that say "I prefer this to having a job, please give me money anyway." If I did, I doubt I would give.

I will leave any comparisons to corporate America out of the discussion; I don't think this is a proper forum for that sort of thing, honestly.

With regard to the photographs, they were compelling enough that I looked at all of them. I worried about the young women depicted and hoped for their safety as they travel.

I also considered things like what would happen were a traveler to be injured or killed hopping trains. One would suppose there would be a public outcry, but would those upset by the injuries or deaths really grasp that this was the lifestyle apparently preferred by those engaging in it, and that they thus were assuming all risks that death could occur due to it?

I also wondered how similar or dissimilar these kids are to people like the early Beatniks and those of their generation. Are there any Alan Ginsbergs in there? Any Ernesto "Che" Guevaras? Any Bukowskis, or Kerouacs? I have no idea.

Having been exposed to the early 80s punk scene in SoCal, and remembering what I read of the 'Club Kids' of the 80s and 90s in NYC, this seems like it's just another way for young people to find themselves.

Just some random thoughts.
 
bmattock I might be a bit sensitive regarding this homeless as a choice or not choice Thing as my former Girlfriend spent some time as a Homeless due to mental issues. During that period quiet a few People told her she should work instead of panhandling as she is still young and there is no excuse for her lazyness.

"Having been exposed to the early 80s punk scene in SoCal, and remembering what I read of the 'Club Kids' of the 80s and 90s in NYC, this seems like it's just another way for young people to find themselves. " I like this sentence very much and I believe it to be the case.
 
Panhandling is also a form of work, their time is spent panhandling so they can't do something that would be considered fun and spare time.


$107 for 3 hours 'work' taking advantage of people's sentiments. Leaving 21 hours left in the day to do whatever.

FYI, this is not a criticism of the photo essay, I think it's great. But the narrative is very revealing.
 
I remember one set from a couple years ago, but cannot remember where I saw the prints. There were more train shots and fewer truck shots. It was a more powerful story.
 
Great pictures and story. Thank you for sharing.

There have always been members of society that live outside the accepted norms.
Sometimes this is a preference, sometimes circumstances dictate, including mental health.
 
Great photo essay, thanks for posting. Part of me feels it would be more effective in black and white - color can be distracting. ;-)

Regarding the $107, I suspect that is more of an occasional windfall; they have a tough life on the road. But some people honestly cannot live in what used to be called 'straight' society.

Besides, our world is full of examples from the professional managerial class who fulfill no obvious productive purpose, yet make much more than $107 in three hours. If only they would hop a train to find themselves - their pathetic lives might still have purpose!

Randy
 
Besides, our world is full of examples from the professional managerial class who fulfill no obvious productive purpose, yet make much more than $107 in three hours. If only they would hop a train to find themselves - their pathetic lives might still have purpose!

Randy

🙂 Well said!
 
Great photo essay, thanks for posting. Part of me feels it would be more effective in black and white - color can be distracting. ;-)
Randy

I so totally disagree with this sentiment: so many 'reportage' series are published in b&w to give an 'artistic', artificially 'gritty' quality to the images - which just distances the viewer, and separates the pictures from 'reality', transforming them into a nostalgic photographic artifact.

I really liked these images - but when I opened the link, there was no accompanying text. Had to do a bit of a search to find the story.
 
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