EdwardKaraa
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That is true, but the sensor technology used in the M8 goes back to 2001, that of the M9 is more like 2005. The LCD technology, let's not go there.
Horrifying prospect for any digital M8 8.2 owner!!!
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That is true, but the sensor technology used in the M8 goes back to 2001, that of the M9 is more like 2005. The LCD technology, let's not go there.
Roger Hicks
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But only 'kind of'. It's also the only option for (a) FF and (b) current digital RF.
Cheers,
R.
Lss
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Okay. There can be many reasons. Firstly it is still a good camera regardless of what the calendar says, and it is one of the few digital rangefinders available. Secondly, it is not exactly a cheap camera, so it may be the most expensive/best camera of its type many users can afford or are willing to spend.
Personally, I would never have bought the M8 if it weren't a rangefinder camera. Not much has changed. The only objectively better alternative in this game is the M9, which was available when I got my M8 and which is still a bit heavy for my budget. Well, now there's the Monochrom, too.
This is marketing blurb, not warranty/guarantee.
EdwardKaraa
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Certainly valid reasons, I'll admit that. But, on the other hand, the M8 image quality is good only at base iso, anything above that is really bad. It needs additional filters to be added on every lens. It still has color shift that needs to be corrected despite the crop factor. Its full of compromises and it's not cheap as you say.
But of course if the price of a used M8 is at the limit of the buyers budget, then I understand but it's really not ideal. I would personally stay away from such camera and save more money until I can afford a better model.
dkphoto
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Correct!
Leica is representing and selling a image.
The image of a small, fast, durable, liflong lasting camera.
This might be partial true but it's a lot of marketing blabla, too as digitalintrigue already said.
EdwardKaraa
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How about this Zeiss literature? 🙂
"So near, yet so far away … A dragonfly lands on a water lily and behind its shimmering body, a profusion of flowers stands out clearly. The Distagon T* 2,8/25 lens from Carl Zeiss opens up vistas of translucent depth and sharpness. It’s not afraid to approach to within just a few centimeters of the tiniest motif* without losing sight of the bigger picture."
Godfrey
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If you're going to believe in and set your expectations to match all the marketing hype, you'll never be satisfied with anything.
Knock wood—I've been very fortunate in that I've only very infrequently needed service of any kind for my cameras, and when I did it was almost always something that my local tech could handle for a dime pretty quickly.
I do expect that any one of my expensive machines (the camera, the car, the computer ...) will someday require service or a part that can no longer be obtained, or is unfeasibly expensive to service. I deal with that when it happens, and don't let it bother me until then.
There are more entertaining things I want to do with my time and energy than consume them with worry and horror about the possibility I might need to let a camera go and replace it. But in the end, the expensive and difficult to replace part of my equipment kit (the lenses) continues on regardless of how many bodies I use them on come and go.
Knock wood—I've been very fortunate in that I've only very infrequently needed service of any kind for my cameras, and when I did it was almost always something that my local tech could handle for a dime pretty quickly.
I do expect that any one of my expensive machines (the camera, the car, the computer ...) will someday require service or a part that can no longer be obtained, or is unfeasibly expensive to service. I deal with that when it happens, and don't let it bother me until then.
There are more entertaining things I want to do with my time and energy than consume them with worry and horror about the possibility I might need to let a camera go and replace it. But in the end, the expensive and difficult to replace part of my equipment kit (the lenses) continues on regardless of how many bodies I use them on come and go.
Lss
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It's full of compromises for you.
Sparrow
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... and that offers a morel justification for not supporting a camera that is potentially less than four years old you feel?
EdwardKaraa
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Where in the quoted text did I say that?
EdwardKaraa
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Hmmm, did Leica say they don't support the M8 anymore? I must have missed that part. If I understand correctly, they are still supporting the M8 but one spare part is out of stock and cannot be reordered. They are actually giving a very generous upgrade offer. Honestly I wish I had a defective M8 right now 😉 Anyone would like to donate?
Sparrow
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I was distilling the general outlook of your posts, do you not feel that people should expect that service? and that they are fools, or cheap if they do?
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my 2005 macbook will no longer accept os upgrades...
jsrockit
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Back to the M8. Maybe Leica should offer a general upgrade program for M8 owners to an M9/M10. Then they should get enough working M8 back to satisfy M8 LCD repairs for the next years.
jsrockit
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How would they replenish the part when that part is the reason people are trading in the body?
Roger Hicks
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For the non-lawyers here, Carlill_v_Carbolic_Smoke_Ball_Company
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlill_v_Carbolic_Smoke_Ball_Company
The difference between contractual obligation and 'mere puff'.
Cheers,
R.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlill_v_Carbolic_Smoke_Ball_Company
The difference between contractual obligation and 'mere puff'.
Cheers,
R.
M9reno
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One would expect a serious company not to insult the intelligence of its clients with ridiculous claims. One thing is image, another is a claim. A company is only as serious as the claims it makes.
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