How do I determine the shutter speed on a KIEV 4?

jusxusfanatic said:
Just loaded my first roll of film, did two test shots and it's done. But I'm worrying cos the ISO knob in my KIEV is broken. It only goes up to like 25, and I bought a 100 one, will it affect the pictures? Thanks
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Hm. If someone's haircut doesn't look good, does it affect their digestion?

(Hint: Read. The. Instruction. Manual.)
 
Hi

I've not bothered with metered Kievs but I looked and the meter is covered most of the times, I guess. That means there's a good chance of the cell being OK and so, perhaps, a technician could sort it out for you. Older meters I've got have been sorted out quickly and cheaply, some from the 1940's and a 30's one was fitted with a new cell.

Regards, David

PS And now there's film in it you can see the rewind handle turning as you wind on to show it's not part of the meter and vice versa.
 
jusxusfanatic, it would help to ask your question more exactly. Are you asking how to set the speed, physically, on the camera? Are you asking how to determine what is the correct speed to use? Are you asking how to determine what speed the camera is set to? Three different questions! If you're used to using an automated system, you'll need to learn about exposure, what affects it and how to select the right settings. The Kiev has no automation whatsoever, it's totally in your hands to determine the appropriate settings and set them yourself. If the meter works, you can use that as a guide but it's still up to you to set the shutter speed and aperture, the camera will not do it for you. If the meter doesn't work (even if the ISO dial is stuck), you'll need an external means to figure out the correct exposure.
 
Alright everything's done now. So I just realised you can't open the back of the camera since the film is gonna expose to the light (I'm stupid okay), I keep opening it and closing it cus I wanted to make sure the film is in place. I took two pictures just to make sure it's rolling. Is my whole film ruined?
 
Your whole line of repetitive seemingly naive questions smacks a little too much of wanting to pull our chain for a chuckle or two. Maybe you should get a new hobby?
 
jusxusfanatic said:
Alright everything's done now. So I just realised you can't open the back of the camera since the film is gonna expose to the light (I'm stupid okay), I keep opening it and closing it cus I wanted to make sure the film is in place. I took two pictures just to make sure it's rolling. Is my whole film ruined?
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No, but all of the film that wasn't still inside the film cartridge WILL be ruined. If you want to take this seriously and get some actual pictures on film, you really need to start reading up on a few things. You cannot possibly just throw some film in the camera with no clue what you're doing and expect anything other than a waste of time.
 
1) Leave the film in the camera for now. You have wasted a bit of film, but not all of it. Do NOT open the back until you have exposed all 36 pictures AND have rewound the film into the film cassette. (read the manual on how to do this properly)
2) Shutter speed is the amount of time that you let light into the camera, counted in parts of a second. 1/500 is a very short time used in bright daylight, and 1/30 is a lot longer (suitable for low-light shots). The shutter speed depends on a) the available light b) the aperture , also known as " f stop" (to put it in simple terms).
3) With 400 ASA/ISO film, you can try an outdoors shot with shutter speed at 125 -- 250 and aperture 11 or 16, that will give you some kind of result so you see that the camera works (once you have the roll developed somewhere)
4) Try to understand the relationship between ISO/ASA, shutter and aperture from THIS: http://photographyelement.com/wp-content/uploads/outdoor-exposure-sunny-161.jpg
5) Shoot some different stuff, using different settings from the chart above. Make notes of the settings, one note per frame number. Once you have the roll developed, you have the notes to compare to the results. That will help you understand some of the relationship between shutter time, aperture and light.

Hope this helps. /Richard
 
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Bluesman said:
1) Leave the film in the camera for now. You have wasted a bit of film, but not all of it. Do NOT open the back until you have exposed all 36 pictures AND have rewound the film into the film cassette. (read the manual on how to do this properly)
2) Shutter speed is the amount of time that you let light into the camera, counted in parts of a second. 1/500 is a very short time used in bright daylight, and 1/30 is a lot longer (suitable for low-light shots). The shutter speed depends on a) the available light b) the aperture , also known as " f stop" (to put it in simple terms).
3) With 400 ASA/ISO film, you can try an outdoors shot with shutter speed at 125 -- 250 and aperture 11 or 16, that will give you some kind of result so you see that the camera works (once you have the roll developed somewhere)
4) Try to understand the relationship between ISO/ASA, shutter and aperture from THIS: http://photographyelement.com/wp-content/uploads/outdoor-exposure-sunny-161.jpg
5) Shoot some different stuff, using different settings from the chart above. Make notes of the settings, one note per frame number. Once you have the roll developed, you have the notes to compare to the results. That will help you understand some of the relationship between shutter time, aperture and light.

Hope this helps. /Richard
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Thanks!! I'm using the ektar 100 atm
 
Well, that´s nice glass, but the kind of lens you are using is totally irrelevant for now 🙂.

Now read up on the basics, and make a few shots (and have them developed) to see if that camera works at all.

Edit: Mistook the "ektar" reference for a lens. It´s a film name, I understand now - we don´t have it over here in EU (not that I know). Sorry for the mishap 🙂
 
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