how do you pronounce "Efke"?

Diomedes said:
Remy is right, Efke stands for the initials of FotoKemika. But Raid is wrong, because Croatia has not any resident from German origin. In Croatia, we pronounce and speak like we write.

OT: In 1776, croatian Republic of Ragusa (Dubrovnik) became the first foreign power to recognize the government of the United States od America.
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it is great to hear from all experts, plus native speakers as well!

speak the same way as written? then Efke is pronounced "F-key"? "Ee...f...keh"?

so the "f" comes from [f]otokemika, and the "ke", foto[ke]mika. what about the "E" at the beginning of the name "Efke"?

- refinder
 
F is the letter EF ;)

refinder said:
it is great to hear from all experts, plus native speakers as well!

speak the same way as written? then Efke is pronounced "F-key"? "Ee...f...keh"?

so the "f" comes from [f]otokemika, and the "ke", foto[ke]mika. what about the "E" at the beginning of the name "Efke"?

- refinder
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titrisol said:
F is the letter EF ;)
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hey this is getting interesting!

i saw Dz, Lj, and Nj listed as single letters, or digraphs in the Croatian alphabet, but didn't see Ef. i did see letter E, and letter F, listed separately as two different letters though. could you enlighten me on the croatian letter EF? tks!

- refinder
 
refinder said:
hey this is getting interesting!

i saw Dz, Lj, and Nj listed as single letters, or digraphs in the Croatian alphabet, but didn't see Ef. i did see letter E, and letter F, listed separately as two different letters though. could you enlighten me on the croatian letter EF? tks!

- refinder
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I think it's just how you pronounce the letter. A phonetic rendition of the initials.
 
nikola said:
RML is so smart :) he diserved that ZI :)

maybe i can record pronounciation.... and post it :cool:
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Not really smart. It's rather common in Holland to have such abbreviations. :)
 
Diomedes said:
Remy is right, Efke stands for the initials of FotoKemika. But Raid is wrong, because Croatia has not any resident from German origin. In Croatia, we pronounce and speak like we write.

OT: In 1776, croatian Republic of Ragusa (Dubrovnik) became the first foreign power to recognize the government of the United States od America.
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I just stated what a friend from Germany once told me. He had an aunt in Croatia, and he told me that when the economical state was poor in Germany many years ago, people immigrated to Croatia. Maybe he was wrong.
 
raid amin said:
I just stated what a friend from Germany once told me. He had an aunt in Croatia, and he told me that when the economical state was poor in Germany many years ago, people immigrated to Croatia. Maybe he was wrong.
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He wasn't:
During the eighteenth century, the Habsburg monarchy of Austria, which ruled Hungary at that time, had enticed Germans to emigrate to the unsettled lands of Southern Hungary, which had been devastated by over 150 years of Turkish occupation. From 1711 to 1750, approximately 800 villages were founded in Hungary by German settlers. The Banat Province was one of the primary areas of
settlement and got later a part of Yugoslavia, die "Batschka" in German.
In Germany these folks therefore were called " die Batschka - Deutschen".

Bertram
 
Bertram2 said:
He wasn't:
During the eighteenth century, the Habsburg monarchy of Austria, which ruled Hungary at that time, had enticed Germans to emigrate to the unsettled lands of Southern Hungary, which had been devastated by over 150 years of Turkish occupation. From 1711 to 1750, approximately 800 villages were founded in Hungary by German settlers. The Banat Province was one of the primary areas of
settlement and got later a part of Yugoslavia, die "Batschka" in German.
In Germany these folks therefore were called " die Batschka - Deutschen".

Bertram
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Oh well, Bertram. I have been told I am wrong by two Croations here. It is history that people need to read on. Thanks for the clarification. I recall my discussion with my friend, Oskar, about immigration laws in Germany, and he mentioned as an example to me that some people from Croatia who could prove a German bloodline had a good chance for immigration to Germany.
 
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When we get to the 1930s and 1940s, will we see horrors, atrocities and acts of "turning a blind eye" on the part of those Batschka Germans? Better not go further with this history lesson here on RFF. Not much good will come of it.
 
Efke/Adox 50

Efke/Adox 50

Just got done processing and scanning a few of the 50. Looks pretty good to me, what do you think. Rodinal 1:50 Must add that this pic looks much more contrasty on this posting than it really is......
 
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Bertram, you are fairly right about Germans "Die Banater Schwaben" from Batschka and Banat. Unfortunately, many of them actively supported Hitler's nationalistic politics and German war efforts in WWII. Germans even formed a "7th SS Volunteer Mountain Division Prinz Eugen" from Volksdeutsche personnel from Croatia and Serbia. It saw action in the Balkans against our Partisan Army and against the advancing Red Army. The "Prinz Eugen" is famed for its cruelty and mass murders, especially in my Dalmatia in Croatia. The "Prinz Eugen" war crimes took a part even in Nuremberg Trial Proceedings in 1946.

I must also say that many Italians and Germans support anti fascist movement. Italians have formed a partisan brigade "Garibaldi" and couple of battalions. Germans have had a partisan battalion. In spite of that, most Volksdeutsche left or were expelled from Croatia and Serbia in the course of the German exodus from Eastern Europe. Their houses have been mostly taken by Serbian settlers. One tragedy is always followed by another...


Let's back to photography :D

Vjeko
 
Diomedes said:
Let's back to photography :D
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Yes, please. This was exactly the kind of history lesson I was afraid of. Full of controversy and such. Interesting stuff, but not here on RFF.
 
Diomedes said:
Bertram, you are fairly right about Germans "Die Banater Schwaben" from Batschka and Banat. Unfortunately, many of them actively supported Hitler's nationalistic politics and German war efforts in WWII. Germans even formed a "7th SS Volunteer Mountain Division Prinz Eugen" from Volksdeutsche personnel from Croatia and Serbia. It saw action in the Balkans against our Partisan Army and against the advancing Red Army. The "Prinz Eugen" is famed for its cruelty and mass murders, especially in my Dalmatia in Croatia. The "Prinz Eugen" war crimes took a part even in Nuremberg Trial Proceedings in 1946.

I must also say that many Italians and Germans support anti fascist movement. Italians have formed a partisan brigade "Garibaldi" and couple of battalions. Germans have had a partisan battalion. In spite of that, most Volksdeutsche left or were expelled from Croatia and Serbia in the course of the German exodus from Eastern Europe. Their houses have been mostly taken by Serbian settlers. One tragedy is always followed by another...


Let's back to photography :D

Vjeko
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All true AFAIK. Many were member of the Ustasha I was told. A terrible war of w unexpressible bestailality. We really should better go back to photography.

Bertram
 
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