How Good is Konica IIIa Rangefinder?

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I recently bought a broken Konica IIIa rangefinder real cheap. It's a beautiful camera visually. This camera was apparently quite expensive years ago when new. Based on a suggestion on a prior thread (thanks) I shipped it off to Greg Weber in Nebraska to CLA and fix. He and I had a nice chat today. I'm sure he'll do a fine job.

The question is: Does anyone at RFF actively use this camera, or the III, or the IIIM? What's the quality of photos really like?
 
I haven't used my III in some time, but I found it to be a very good camera. Build quality is excellent -- probably the best of the Konica I, II and III. It also is a very heavy camera.

My Konica II is currently in a state of disrepair. I've found the Konica I and III to have great lenses, and I think you'll be able to produce some excellent photos with it.
 
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Hi, Julian. I put about 30 or 40 rolls of 400-speed black and white film through a Konica IIIa this summer. The thing is *SILENT*, built like a tank, the life-size finder enables shooting with both eyes open, and the framelines that change size as well as position to compensate for parallax give very precise framing. Above all, I consider the IIIa's front-mounted advance lever a stroke of brilliance (heh, heh). As with a bottom winder, you needn't remove the camera from your eye while advancing frames, but as *opposed* to a bottom winder, the index finger of your left hand is left free to quickly operate the focusing tab if your subject moves. I understand that the reason no other camera ever adopted this gimmick is that it's supposed to be problematic, but frankly, it never gave me any problems (except for slightly wider spacing at the beginning of the roll, but then, most older cameras do that if they haven't gotten a CLA in a while).

Despite all this raving, I sold my IIIa to buy a Leica M3, and haven't regretted doing so. The reason was that my IIIa had very inconsistent shutter speeds, something a CLA could have certainly helped, but probably not eliminated altogether due to the plain fact that non-electronic leaf shutters never give you the precision of a focal plane shutter, even the 50-year-old one of the M3. Furthermore, a CLA in Vienna, where I live, would have cost me 400 Euros, which would have raised the cost of the camera to almost 800 Euros - which, frankly, is a ridiculous price for this sort of camera. To give you an idea of how bad it was, the 1/500 speed sounded something like 1/50, and the 1/250 sounded like half a second. A look at my horribly overexposed negatives gave proof to this suspicion.

This is not to say you won't enjoy your new Konica. CLAs in the US are relatively cheap, and it's quite likely that Mr. Weber, who has been warmly recommended to me, will make a diamond out of it. Had I been in the U.S. at the time, I would have definitely sent my IIIa to him, and might even be using it to this day.

Let us know all about it when it gets back! If your shooting style is anything like mine, it might easily become your main camera.

EDIT: You asked about the quality of photos. Unfortunately I cannot answer this question as all of my negatives are overexposed by at least 5 stops. However, they *are* tack sharp, for what it's worth. 🙂
 
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I am using a Konica III. Really enjoy using this camera for street shoots. It has one of the rare single coated lens that is suitable for B&W films. Image quality is excellent.
 
Thank you for responses so far. Greg Weber said he'd ship ithe camera back to me about a week Friday. From the responses, and review of Dante Stella's page, I'm really eager to use it. It's just the right camera for some Kodachrome, once I find some.
 
julianphotoart said:
I recently bought a broken Konica IIIa rangefinder real cheap. It's a beautiful camera visually. This camera was apparently quite expensive years ago when new. Based on a suggestion on a prior thread (thanks) I shipped it off to Greg Weber in Nebraska to CLA and fix. He and I had a nice chat today. I'm sure he'll do a fine job.

The question is: Does anyone at RFF actively use this camera, or the III, or the IIIM? What's the quality of photos really like?

Hi Julian, guess I'm the only one curious about the state of the camera. When you say 'broken' what exactly was it's state of 'broken-ness'?

Read Stella's piece , sounds like quite the piece of glass.

Jan
 
jan normandale said:
Hi Julian, guess I'm the only one curious about the state of the camera. When you say 'broken' what exactly was it's state of 'broken-ness'?

Read Stella's piece , sounds like quite the piece of glass.

Jan


The camera is broken in a (for a leaf shutter) funny way. According to Greg Weber, someone at some point opened up the shutter assembly, disattached the leaves, gave up, and put it back together so that the leaves just float around inside willy-nilly. They also tried to disengage the EV dial (the weird one that ties the shutter speed and f-stop together) and mangled that up too. It's all internal; from the outside the camera is very, very nice. These cameras were lubricated with whale oil so Greg is taking care of that too. The camera really is an extremely solid piece of metal, and the big 1:1 rangefinder is awfully nice even for glass-wearers. I guess I ougtht to post photos of it once it returns because I guess there's not many of these on RFF.
 
julianphotoart said:
Thank you for responses so far. Greg Weber said he'd ship ithe camera back to me about a week Friday. From the responses, and review of Dante Stella's page, I'm really eager to use it. It's just the right camera for some Kodachrome, once I find some.
I take all my Konica stuff to Greg Weber. Until I got it all stolen last year. But anyway, I bought a Konica T2 slr from him. He does great work. Konica SLR lenses are very underated. Also, if you like to print full frame (with black borders), every Konica has a "notch" on it. You can tell which camera you took the shot with from that notch that seems to be in a different spot on all cameras. I saw the notch even on the P&S Konica stuff.
 
Very strange! Almost sounds like a kid was playing with the camera. Still it appears to be a straightforward repair for a seasoned veteran like Greg.

It will be intriguing to see the camera , however being a visual person, the photos coming from it will be most interesting. Good luck on the Kodachrome.
 
jan normandale said:
Read Stella's piece , sounds like quite the piece of glass.

Jan
Stella appears to be a big Konica fan as well. He used those Konica SLRs for a while. He's a huge fan o fthe rangefinders too. Interesting stuff on his website.
 
Here is one of the shots taken with my Konica III.

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I went to one of the local stores here in Sapporo today because of this thread. They had four Konica III's of various types. I don't remember them all, but I think one was a 48mm f/2.4, one was definitely a 50mm f/1.8, and I think there was a 40mm f/2, but I could be wrong. One was a III, and one was a IIIa, and there were two others. I was shocked how clear the finders were. Very bright and easy to focus. The weird part for me was that ther was no visible rangefinder patch to speak of, just a nebulous area in the center where there were split images. The only other thing that bothered me was the shutter speed and aperture settings...I just could not get them to work correctly...it seemed to be quite fidgety. Very cool and intersting camera though. This store was pretty interesting too -- Joe would love it, they had about 12 Canon screwmount bodies, mostly 7's. Also most of the lenses...prices were exhorbitant however.
 
Such a coincident, that photo was taken in Sapporo, a week after the ice festival early this year. I believe most Konica IIIs need a CLA. Most of the remaining units are over 40+ years now.
 
Unfortunately maxy, that image does not show up on my monitor -- it just has a little box that says "photo malaysia", so I don't think you can hotlink the image. Could you perhaps provide a direct link, or upload it to RFF? Also, that is a pretty odd coincidence!
 
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Please do post photos of it and by it when you can, Julian.
Alas, Konicas of this vintage are few and far between this side of the Atlantic.

I re-found this thread today. Camera repaired great. Here's what it looks like, and here's photos from first roll. Metering done by VC meter attached to cold-shoe.

The camera is VERY heavy. It has that big film-advance plunger which seems weird but in practice is extremely nice and quick. The viewfinder is 1:1. The rangefinder patch is no Leica but it seems certainly good enough for a camera that's 47 years old.

As is evident in the sunset photo, the lens coating, design and/or construction make it pretty obvious that I should NOT shoot more sunsets.
 
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