Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I was using my M2 for the first time in quite a while today and noticed that the inside of the viewfinder, particularly the front glass, is very hazy and whatever it was cleaned with previously has left a visible residue of wipe marks that are being highlighted by the haze. It's annoying for two reasons, one because it's actually bad enough to create a flare in the finder when shooting into light ... and two because the camera was CLA'd by Youxin a couple of years ago and this was a sloppy job IMO. I first noticed it a year or so ago and it seems to have got noticably worse since I last used the camera about six months ago.
Anyway enough whinging ... is it hard to the get the top cover off the camera so I can clean these surfaces properly and what tools would I need to do so?
Anyway enough whinging ... is it hard to the get the top cover off the camera so I can clean these surfaces properly and what tools would I need to do so?
Moriturii
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sanmich
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Not very hard, but you really need the right clamps.
Sparrow
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I've done it, so it can't be that hard ... the video I used as a reference has been deleted unfortunately
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Take a look at Kim Coxon's site, in particular the service manual produced for the US Army issue M2s (KS-15)
Sparrow
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Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Sparrow
Veteran
... one must suffer for one's art :back-of-hand-to-forehead-turns-walks-off:
ChrisN
Striving
... Just depends on whether you want to use it again as a camera!
seifadiaz
Established
Zhou has the tools. Ebay item #180481033074.
Sparrow
Veteran
... you'll also need some jewellers screwdrivers and a small hard rubber stopper to get the rewind knob off
Sparrow
Veteran
... like this.
a cassette has had the spindle glued in place to stop the rewind shaft turning while removing the screw securing it from the top
a cassette has had the spindle glued in place to stop the rewind shaft turning while removing the screw securing it from the top
seifadiaz
Established
Good technique on that rubber stopper thing. Thanks for sharing.
Heavystar has this 200563696899 and this 360279192645
I don't know if there are any better ones in Bunnings.
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Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Good technique on that rubber stopper thing. Thanks for sharing.
Heavystar has this 200563696899 and this 360279192645
I already have the screwdrivers and the rubber stopper idea from Stewart was useful for the rewind knob ... that just leaves the clamps which are around $80.00 for the full set from Zhou. Seems a shame to have to buy these when I'll probably only ever use them the once!
Fraser
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Don't try it with out the copper clamps they are worth the cash. Two minute job with the right tools.
ferider
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Pretty straight forward, Keith, but you need the clamps. I take the rewind knob off with a lens spanner, BTW.
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Sparrow
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mooge
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you can make your own clamps with a bit of improvising and a dremel tool. I used plexiglass and a 'dog tag' for the little ring under the rewind knob.
it does take a couple hours though.
it does take a couple hours though.
errorlogin
Love vintage Hifi, too!
Be careful when you clean the finder. The coating ist very very light and easily be damaged.
Maybe it's already partly off:
Maybe it's already partly off:
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with previously has left a visible residue of wipe marks
peterm1
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Keith,
Its not all that hard to do but you need a little equipment and need to do it on the right sequence. Thats about it. Anyone with basic mechanical skills should be able to do it with a little patience.
There is (was?) a very nice video on YouTube which explains how to remove the cover from the M6 (I think there may also be one on the earlier cameras too). In any event the M2 is basically identical to the M6 with the exceptions that there is an extra screw at the top dead centre position in the lens mount and of course the rewind knob is different.
I had a quick look on Youtube today but could not see the video again. (You may wish to search yourself using top cover, top plate and similar search terms.) However I have the video downloaded to my PC - Private Mail me, Keith and I will send it too you.
This thread on Photnet may also help.
http://photo.net/leica-rangefinders-forum/0053Vp
As may this thread (on RFF) where we discussed the tools needed for getting the top off an M4P to replace a faulty flash sync plug (a problem that M4Ps sometimes develop as they get older. Incidentally anyone wants a complete M4P flashblock - I have one I bought on eBay but have not now used. It cost me $70 and I would let it go for that.)
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82826&highlight=leica+top+plate
I also have the two most essential clamps which I no longer need (a further clamp is optional and you will see why if you watch the video). They are not expensive if you get them from the right source as I did so I am sure that we can work something out if you wish - have to look after another Aussie. (I have sold my M4-p and bought an M8 so do not anticipate requiring these again.) From memory if you buy them as a set specifically for Leica they charge more than if you buy them individually. Problem is that in the latter case you need to know the correct sizes to order. (See the above thread which informs you of the correct sizes)
Incidentally I checked with my camera guy when I was preparing to clean my finder - he told me as did another knowledgeable person that camera tech's clean the inside of the window with toothpaste. I did not need to do this as in the end the opportunity to buy an M8 came up at a good price so I sold my camera instead.
So I cannot vouch for the toothpaste technique but it may be something you wish to make further inquiries about. (Or experiment with if you are game - although I have faith in the guys who told me this.)
Its not all that hard to do but you need a little equipment and need to do it on the right sequence. Thats about it. Anyone with basic mechanical skills should be able to do it with a little patience.
There is (was?) a very nice video on YouTube which explains how to remove the cover from the M6 (I think there may also be one on the earlier cameras too). In any event the M2 is basically identical to the M6 with the exceptions that there is an extra screw at the top dead centre position in the lens mount and of course the rewind knob is different.
I had a quick look on Youtube today but could not see the video again. (You may wish to search yourself using top cover, top plate and similar search terms.) However I have the video downloaded to my PC - Private Mail me, Keith and I will send it too you.
This thread on Photnet may also help.
http://photo.net/leica-rangefinders-forum/0053Vp
As may this thread (on RFF) where we discussed the tools needed for getting the top off an M4P to replace a faulty flash sync plug (a problem that M4Ps sometimes develop as they get older. Incidentally anyone wants a complete M4P flashblock - I have one I bought on eBay but have not now used. It cost me $70 and I would let it go for that.)
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82826&highlight=leica+top+plate
I also have the two most essential clamps which I no longer need (a further clamp is optional and you will see why if you watch the video). They are not expensive if you get them from the right source as I did so I am sure that we can work something out if you wish - have to look after another Aussie. (I have sold my M4-p and bought an M8 so do not anticipate requiring these again.) From memory if you buy them as a set specifically for Leica they charge more than if you buy them individually. Problem is that in the latter case you need to know the correct sizes to order. (See the above thread which informs you of the correct sizes)
Incidentally I checked with my camera guy when I was preparing to clean my finder - he told me as did another knowledgeable person that camera tech's clean the inside of the window with toothpaste. I did not need to do this as in the end the opportunity to buy an M8 came up at a good price so I sold my camera instead.
So I cannot vouch for the toothpaste technique but it may be something you wish to make further inquiries about. (Or experiment with if you are game - although I have faith in the guys who told me this.)
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