dave lackey
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Hey, Mark...
Noticed you are new and I would like to welcome you to RFF! Lot of good people here.
Also, looked over your website and your work is impressive!😎
Looking forward to more of your posts.
How Long Until The M9?
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Hey, Mark...
Noticed you are new and I would like to welcome you to RFF! Lot of good people here.
Also, looked over your website and your work is impressive!😎
Looking forward to more of your posts.
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Mark Seymour
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Fred Burton
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Gang sign? It's a secret hand signal indicating to other Leica initiates that you are being assaulted by Canon 5D owners and need immediate help!
dexdog
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I have seen teenagers use the "L" sign, normally holding it in front of the forehead. It does not mean leica, but seems to mean something akin to "parent".
kevin m
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That's the most hopeful statement they've made yet, as they seem to realize the current M8 is a less-than-ideal digital platform. It would be nice if the best lenses in the world had at least a nearly equal body on which to use them.
Olsen
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This is absolutely right. There is nothing Canon cant do that Leica cant do. The limits of the M8 lies in the RFF design. Full Frame, and all that, is far easier to design for a D-SLR.
I foresee a new M9 at around 2010. I guess that it will not be (completely) Full Frame. While it will have close to twice as much pixels and a f-stop or two better High ISO/Low Noice, - hopefully better. It will have a larger LCD and faster and larger file handling computer. And, hopefully a system for cleaning the sensor and adjusting back and front focusing with certain lenses.
Dale Cook
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For what it's worth, I don't believe Leica should be striving to develop a full-frame sensor for the next M generation. A rangefinder was never meant to be best in class from a resolution perspective...even in the beginning. The development of the 35mm format and cameras that used that film were intended to be portable bringing new opportunities to photographers that were once impossible.
IMHO, Leica should be looking at the Micro 4/3rds format. That's a concept that better aligns with what most want from their Rangefinders (small size, good resolution, interchangeable lense system). The format also eliminates the shutter issue and would provide noiseless actuations...perfect for reportage and street shooting. Not to mention, the technology is open and should be something that could be made without huge R&D from Leica at a price point that is reasonable.
IMHO, Leica should be looking at the Micro 4/3rds format. That's a concept that better aligns with what most want from their Rangefinders (small size, good resolution, interchangeable lense system). The format also eliminates the shutter issue and would provide noiseless actuations...perfect for reportage and street shooting. Not to mention, the technology is open and should be something that could be made without huge R&D from Leica at a price point that is reasonable.
kevin m
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I agree. Some new direction is needed for the digital future. Would it be possible to use M lenses with a 4/3 camera, though?
Dale Cook
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Yup, they already have an adapter for M mount lenses for the new Panasonic. The camera is getting very good reviews. Several have commented how it exceeded their expectations. Imagine how good a camera of that ilk could be with good glass, no shutter vibration, in-body vibration reduction, and good high ISO performance. It seems to me the Micro 4/3rds format would be ideally suited to the M series.
The one drawback of the smaller sensor would be the crop factor. I believe it's closer to 1.6 - 2.0x. That's really my only reservation. But, then again, getting some additional distance from my glass wouldn't be that bad for stealth shooting. I guess there always some trade-offs.
The one drawback of the smaller sensor would be the crop factor. I believe it's closer to 1.6 - 2.0x. That's really my only reservation. But, then again, getting some additional distance from my glass wouldn't be that bad for stealth shooting. I guess there always some trade-offs.
kevin m
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Well, if Leica is smarter about it than Canon and Nikon have been, and introduces fast, prime lenses to cover the wide angle end, I'd go for one. Something in the 17-18mm range, no slower than f2.0, please.😀
kevin m
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Well it makes for some exciting telephoto possibilities. Your Noctilux would be the worlds only 100mm f1.0 lens. 😀
Olsen
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Nikon have no sensor at all. Like Leica, they buy it from somebody else.
Olsen
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Kevin,
Nice to see that you are using a Norwegian woodburning stove; Jøtul.
kevin m
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They're good stoves, Olsen! We bought it four years ago when the exchange rate was favorable and it was still expensive, but worth every penny, I think. It's easy to use, easy to clean, and reliable.
All the wood in our woodshed was felled with a Husqvarna chainsaw, and the Volvo is Swedish, too, so I guess we have a few Scandinavian imports. 😀
All the wood in our woodshed was felled with a Husqvarna chainsaw, and the Volvo is Swedish, too, so I guess we have a few Scandinavian imports. 😀
aizan
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smells like autofocus...
jaapv
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As long as I can use my manual-focus lenses....
Nikon probably sells Sony etc. the IC steppers they need to make the sensors they then sell back to Nikon.
blondie1
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Do you think so? Well, read this:http://web.mac.com/kamberm/Leica_M8_Field_Test,_Iraq/Page_1.html
And don't think that this test only counts in war conditions. I worked with it for two years in more normal professional situations, and I can endorse the conclusion totally. The M8 is a total failure. Professionally not usable in most situations. Far, far behind other camera's. If Leica will not come up with a M9 soon, they will place themselves out of the market. Greetings, Blondie.
And don't think that this test only counts in war conditions. I worked with it for two years in more normal professional situations, and I can endorse the conclusion totally. The M8 is a total failure. Professionally not usable in most situations. Far, far behind other camera's. If Leica will not come up with a M9 soon, they will place themselves out of the market. Greetings, Blondie.
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Let's get on taking phtographs, shall we? The M8 has been doing that quite satisfactory for the last two years and will carry on doing so for a long,long, time....Similar threads
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