Some folks are sensitive about this, but if one isn't shooting hundreds of frames a week, they might fall in the collector category, IMHO ...
Hmm, I probably should have been more sensitive when starting / phrasing the initial thread.
How about: How many Clicks on your digital M-body...
..when you bought it?
..when you sold it to upgrade to next model / different system?
..until it needed service?
..and is the shutter actuator still smooth?
..before it became obsolete?
..for professional versus personal use?
..were of your hamster, dog or cat?
14,325
I've had it since around the beginning of this year (I bought it used on eBay). It came to me with something like 11k actuations. You're way ahead of me 🙂
It's nice that you knew the "mileage" when buying the camera. That's one reason to keep track of # of clicks - to help if/when selling gear.
I don't really want to know how many I have on mine. I know it will be a lot, just because it's my shooting style. I grew up in photography through the photojournalism route - and photojournalists tend to live with the belief that you shoot too much, rather than not enough.
Surely style plays a large part. I identify with photojournalism, without the journalism part - maybe "Photodocumentary".
Leica M8 ~ I have a little bit over a year with 13k clicks .....it has to go back to Leica though, while it's developed some dead/hot pixels and also has banding at high iso. :/
Tom
Uh oh! Do you think it is a pure matter of time, or amount of time and conditions under which the curtain is open that might be a factor?
Is there a sense of "shutter life" for Leica Digital M-bodies?
Also, is there an expectation of "sensor life" for Leica Digital M-Bodies?
I have an RD1s with probably <5000 clicks. Seem to recall that at around 100,000k it will likely need repair?
Really? I'd put it the other way around. Anyone who is shooting hundreds of frames a week, every week, is wasting a lot of time on processing - even if that 'processing' is only reviewing the pics in Lightroom and choosing fewer than 10%.
Roger, thanks for the comments. I get pleasure flipping through a set that was just captured (and it's easy to flag them as picks as you flip through). Usually do it the same day/night, almost always by the next day, and very rarely fill a card before transferring to computer (mostly only when traveling). I also learn a lot, photographically, when reviewing (the learning curve I'm on now was likely crested by you decades ago).
I would also argue that we don't spend enough time in Lightroom, looking at our pictures. I've looked through everything on more than one occasion.
Try this in a viewer such as Lightroom: view hierarchy at entire collection level, set full screen loupe mode, turn down the lights (L-key), press the right cursor - and watch the "movie".
At 5 frames / second, it takes over an hour to flip through all the images. I did this last Sunday afternoon. I've done it on segments (such as a one-week trip) more often.
... Also, they must photograph the same thing again and again.
MUST is a strong word, and likely an unfounded assumption for many individuals. My 4-month photo collection is more varied than you might expect, though perhaps boring relative to many folks. I try and do an interesting activity almost every day (a show, dinner party, travel, lecture, workshop, charity event, hike, sports event or competition, visit w/ family/friend, etc.). Some people watch TV..
Last Sunday week I shot maybe 400 pics at Sauzeau: a country fair, with haybale-tossing, donkey races, communal dinner and variety show. Reviewing them, I suspect that was probably 200-300 too many: I'd have done better to think more and shoot less, as I would with film.
I think you're focusing on Overshooting here, just one of the directions this thread could go. I've followed (with interest and an attempt at introspection) your Overshooting thread started back in June titled
Sooner or later... (<- click to open).
Will comment further there, as there are some excellent points made by various members in that thread already (plus ampguys example here with the Grand Palouse wheatfield compositions).
My M8 (purchased in July of '07) has around 2400 actuations, give or take. I only bought it for travel, and haven't done much of that since the economy tanked. 99% of my local photography I do with the 5D, which I like better in every way except size. That's part of the reason I'm not interested in an M9 right now, I would never get my money's worth out of it. I only shoot when I have a reason to, and then I still shoot as if it was film.
I don't like my 5D "in every way except size" over the M-body - more of "on a par" or "different". But that's just me, and I can see your point. For me, the 5D is a bit better at high ISO, about on par with focusing, slower to set shutter speed / f-stop / ISO than the M (though seeing shutter speed in viewfinder is nice), has an inferior viewfinder, slightly higher hand-held shutter speed, blows away the M for macro / close focusing, and so on.
But ahhh, the SIZE! That's the #1 reason I didn't carry the 5D every day, it was the primary motivator for the M9. If I didn't care about carrying a "quality" digital with me everywhere, the 5D would be just fine and probably a better value.
My 5D is getting TONS of clicks on it lately, but that's because I've gotten into some Stop Motion / Time Lapse projects lately...
