Broughsup
broughsup
How many pictures are you prepared to miss and how boring can you get. I love my two M8's, have no plans to change to M8/2's and will consider a M9 if or when it happens, meanwhile am far too busy taking PICTURES to worry about what might - Or might not be! Don
Lukak
Newbie
Here's some news for this thread:
A reputable source told me recently that the leica m9 will be released towards the end of this year, will feature a full frame sensor and greatly improved low light capabilities. He estimated a sensor size above 12mp. it will be available, at least here in melbourne, australia, by april.
That said, I'm selling my m7 for an m8 then selling the m8 later this year (august or so) before the prices crash.
A reputable source told me recently that the leica m9 will be released towards the end of this year, will feature a full frame sensor and greatly improved low light capabilities. He estimated a sensor size above 12mp. it will be available, at least here in melbourne, australia, by april.
That said, I'm selling my m7 for an m8 then selling the m8 later this year (august or so) before the prices crash.
user237428934
User deletion pending
Here's some news for this thread:
A reputable source told me recently that the leica m9 will be released towards the end of this year, will feature a full frame sensor and greatly improved low light capabilities. He estimated a sensor size above 12mp. it will be available, at least here in melbourne, australia, by april.
That said, I'm selling my m7 for an m8 then selling the m8 later this year (august or so) before the prices crash.
Is it possible that the release date will exactly be april 1.
FrozenInTime
Well-known
the leica m9 will be released towards the end of this year, will feature a full frame sensor and greatly improved low light capabilities. He estimated a sensor size above 12mp.
I hope this target was made very clear to Leica's accountants a few years ago : it's what the market expects, making it essential to fund the R&D investment into a custom sensor.
If they are waiting for someone else to develop suitable technology then the dream will never happen.
So in my dreams, one morning in April next year, I see myself worrying about about rangefinder alignment as UPS drop a parcel at my door containing a M9+Noctilux starter kit.
IF (big if) they can pull it off, I'm sure they will do their best to test the 'price elasticity' of market.
So interest free payments over 2 years (as Hasselblad used to do) would also be a useful sales tool (especially as we are now talking prices in the same region as cars).
gfspencer
gfspencer
Photography is just a hobby for me so I'll stick with my M8 . . . even if there is an M10.
Ben Z
Veteran
I'm not "waiting" to buy the M9 - but I'm not buying the M8.2, either. Too expensive for a couple of, IMO, minor updates. If the M8 were my primary camera, maybe, but it's not.
That's close to my response too. I may buy an M9, but I won't know that until I know its specifications. (And even then, unlike I did with the M8, I will wait until all the bugs have been found out, and there are demos available at a more sane price than new ones). But the reason I'm not buying an M8.2 is because it would've cost me $1000 more to sell my M8 and buy an 8.2 than it did to get my M8 upgraded with all the features of the M8.2 that mean anything to me.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
I hope this target was made very clear to Leica's accountants a few years ago : it's what the market expects, making it essential to fund the R&D investment into a custom sensor.
If they are waiting for someone else to develop suitable technology then the dream will never happen.
(1) Everyone at Leica, including the accountants, is fully aware of the desirability of a full-frame sensor, and always has been. The reason there is no 24x36 M9 is not pure spite or stupidity on Leica's part.
(2) The cost of developing new sensors is very high indeed, and it's impossible unless you're a sensor manufacturer, so 'someone else' (almozt certainly Kodak) is their only hope.Of course Leica can pay for this research, but as has often been pointed out before, the laws of physics are also involved.
Tashi delek,
R.
yoyo22
Well-known
I was considering buying the M8.2 for several weeks now, but in the end I didn't. The idea of an M9 being released anytime soon maybe and also the fact that for shooting 28mm I would have to buy a 21mm lens stopped me.
In the end I just ordered a brand new Coolscan 5000. COmpared to buying the M8.2 I now have around 3000 EUR left for buying and developing films. That budget should last for a while.
In the end I just ordered a brand new Coolscan 5000. COmpared to buying the M8.2 I now have around 3000 EUR left for buying and developing films. That budget should last for a while.
zeitz
Established
My M8 works fine. I see no reason to buy an M8.2; both cameras take the same picture. I have decided not to upgrade my M8. The cost of the upgrades is patiently waiting in the bank for the M9.
robklurfield
eclipse
I'm waiting for a rich uncle. Anybody have one they can spare?
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
I am waiting for the M9, because then the prices of used M8s will fall for sure!
Priceless.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Leica can forget the old pace of model renewal if they are going to stay in business in today's (...) market.
Phrase repeated over and over again since the 1910s.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
An M8 seems to be a safer place for your money nowadays. At least it will not evaporate entirely!. The cost of the upgrades is patiently waiting in the bank for the M9.
Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
I upgraded to an M8.2 primarily because I got a great trade-in deal on my M8. The only real benefit, at least to me, has been the quieter shutter.
Tuolumne
Veteran
M9? When pigs fly...Oh wait, Swine Flew. 
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denmark.yuzon
Streetographer
I passed on a really good buy for $200 w/guarantee recently,
i think maybe its 2000 dollars rather than 200?
myM8yogi
Well-known
I'll wait for the M9.
There isn't enough difference between an M8 and M8.2 for me personally to consider swappping out my M8. I also suspect that the M9 will take a few years to be developed. I am also 100% certain that it will take me many years to save enough for an M9.
I think this is less of a question about technological development and more of a question about how quickly you can accumulate a large enough camera savings account. If it only takes you one year to save enough money for an M body, why are you even thinking about this? If it takes you five years, then expect to spend your savings on an M9. Everyone's cost/benefit analysis must depend on their budget. Am I missing something here?
There isn't enough difference between an M8 and M8.2 for me personally to consider swappping out my M8. I also suspect that the M9 will take a few years to be developed. I am also 100% certain that it will take me many years to save enough for an M9.
I think this is less of a question about technological development and more of a question about how quickly you can accumulate a large enough camera savings account. If it only takes you one year to save enough money for an M body, why are you even thinking about this? If it takes you five years, then expect to spend your savings on an M9. Everyone's cost/benefit analysis must depend on their budget. Am I missing something here?
jpmac55
Established
I am happy with my M8 and will likely pay little attention to a M9. I stopped tormenting myself many years ago by not chasing technology. Model B will replace Model A and C will replace B.
DougFord
on the good foot
given the current used prices for an M8 in mint condition, it probably pays to hang on and wait for the M9
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