How much should this 50 Cron go for?

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I have bid on a chrome 50/2 Summicron but alot of other auctions for the same type of lens seem like they go for $600 plus. Is that the correct price range for this lens or can I hope to get it for less than $600? Link to the auction below.

50/2 Summicron-M
 
The listing says it's the "latest model before the asph". Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think there is such a thing as a 50 Summicron Asph. So this lens would appear to be the lastest version.
That being the case, I'd be surprised if it went for less than $600. But stranger things have happened on ebay.
 
This late model will probably go for over $600, especially since attention has been drawn to it...

The older Summicron's go for under $600; the type 2 Rigid of the late 60s and early 70s is a good buy; the Type I Rigid and Collapsible Summicrons go for less. Don;t be afraid of a lens with a few cleaning marks, they affect price much more than performance.
 
Thanks for the replies, I was outbid already and definatley cant afford $600 so I may look into the collapsible 50 cron. I have seen a couple for $300 or less. I supossedly can collapse into the Bessa R3A I would purchase it for.
 
hey, how about a hexanon 50mm f2 m mount? there's a few about in the classifieds. i own both a 50 cron and a 50 hexanon and the build quality etc. is damn close. the hex 50 is also highly regarded if that kind of thing is important to you.
pretty sure they can be had for less than $600.
i bought mine for $410 and it's pretty much brand new!
i'm sure it's been covered but damn man, be careful over there.
 
The collapsible summicron-M works well with my R2. I can collapse it with the shade on and use it with the fitted case.
 
Why don't you find a camera show or some other venue instead of eBay?

Then you don't have to compete against every wide-eyed stoopnagle with too many Euros or too little sense?

And NEVER post auctions here for "evaluations". All you do is guarantee that it will end at a higher price.


(oops, sorry, didn't notice your location until after I posted the above. I sincerely hope you come back soon in once piece and spend many happy years attending camera shows and hunting for equipment)


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I also second emraphoto's suggestion of an M-Hexanon.

Best regards and a happy and healthy new year,
Uwe
 
Well I thank you all for your input, I actually just pulled the "trigger" on an ebay auction and got a black 50/2 Cron with a small cleaning mark on the front element for $385. Came with caps as well, now just need to find a hood. The seller has 100% pos so and a 7 day return policy so all should be well. I think the black lens will look better on my black Bessa R3A than a silver one would anyway.

Here it is: Black Leitz Wezlar Summicron
 
tbarker13 said:
The listing says it's the "latest model before the asph". Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think there is such a thing as a 50 Summicron Asph. So this lens would appear to be the lastest version.
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You're totally correct. At this time there's no such thing as a 50 Summicron ASPH.

I have this version in black. I use this lens hood with it: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Metal-39mm-Screw-in-Vented-Tilted-Hood-for-Leica_W0QQitemZ140116817077QQihZ004QQcategoryZ78999QQcmdZViewItem
 
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Some examples with my "Type 2 Rigid" Summicron, circa 1970 Black lens, 6 elements in 5 groups, same version as what you just bought:

Wide-Open, from my first "test roll" on the M3 (On a fairly steeply inclined hill, and I'm trying to not fall over):

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Obligatory "Brick Wall" Picture, probably F4 (maybe F2.8). I never close down past F4 on a test roll...

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Brian Sweeney said:
This late model will probably go for over $600, especially since attention has been drawn to it...

The older Summicron's go for under $600; the type 2 Rigid of the late 60s and early 70s is a good buy; the Type I Rigid and Collapsible Summicrons go for less. Don;t be afraid of a lens with a few cleaning marks, they affect price much more than performance.
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Brian,

Which is the first type rigid and which is the second type rigid?

This image was taken at 2.0 with a rigid Summicron (chrome):


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5297418
 
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I go by the designations that KB Cameras used:

http://www.leicagallery.com/summicron50m.htm

SO, by there reckoning, this is a Type 2 Rigid Summicron, SN#2,268,000-2,995,000. The optical formula is 6 elements in 5 groups.

The Type I Rigid is 7 elements in 6 groups. The collapsible is also 7 elements in 6 groups, but the spacing is different.

Some sellers use a different designations. The later "Type I Rigid Summicrons" (by KB Cameras' designation) are sometimes called "Type 2" because they have an improved coating and are marked in feet and meters. But, they have the same optical formula.
 
Thanks Brian,
My Wetzlar example has serial number 1.5 million and is marked in feet only, so it is Type I rigid Summicron. It is chrome and in mint like condition. I cannot imagine nicer looking and better craftmanship than this version.
 
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