How to copewiih 28mm frame lines of M6 ?

[alexz]

Something that bothers me a bit, even though I only have single, Summocron 50mm/2 (latest) lens that is obviously "glued" on my M6.
Anyway, sometimes I like to play with frame lines preview while shooting just to check how the composiiton would look with other then 50mm lens and I'm struck with 28mm frame lines. The vertical lines can be barely visible smmultenously (I try to carefully center my eye over the finder), whlist the side lines are totally out of the view. In order to see them, I need some kind of eye-acrobatics and even then only one-side line can be noticed at the finder side boundaries, either left or right. :bang:
So I wonder how it can be possible to effectively use 28mm frames on M6 Classic (0.72) with corresponding lens ? What are your experiences ?
Do you just use entire field of view of the finder and accept the fact of some additional
parts to get on the film that couldn't be seen in the finder ?

Thanks, Alex

 

[Xmas]

Alex

On a M2 I have to open both eyes. Dont worry too much about edges.

Noel

 

[alexz]

Thanks Noel, but did not get the point how opening your non-composing eye helps 28mm compositon...

 

[Simon Larbalestier]

I find the 28mm lines on the M6 classic enough to compose a shot and i usaully compose just inside the lines. Not sure if this answers your question or not.

 

[Monz]

I use a 28mm Voigtlander lens with the "wrong" adapter (35/135); so I ignore frame lines and take everything I see in the viewfinder as the field of view of the 28mm lens.
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Monz

 

[Magus]

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[Xmas]

Alex

- you can see what is outside frame, useful even if the picture is static, also reduces hazard if people are going to collide with you

- since I can see mid points of vertical parts of frame but no where near to the corners, I have to visualise the frame from the bits I can see. Not easy but sometimes there is no time to swap to the accessory finder, so I normally leave the accessory at home.

Noel

 

[ferider]

I use the 90mm framelines for composition (1/3rd) and the 28 lines as a reference to check some of the borders. Both eyes open.

Roland.

 

[Ben Z]

For extensive use of the 28mm lens I use an accessory finder that goes in the shoe. Given the depth of field of the 28 and the fact I'm usually shooting at around f/5.6-8 outside I tend to zone focus or hyperfocal anyway so I don't worry about going back and forth to the rangefinder. When I use a flash in the shoe I resort to cramming my eye against the finder and scouting around inside it for the framelines (I also wear glasses so it makes matters somewhat worse). Somewhere I have one of those Voitlander double-shoe thingamabobs but never seem to have it with me when I need it.

 

[alexz]

Well, I used to compose by my left eye (even though I right-handed) and albeit my right eye is usually also open - it is blocked by the camera body.
I'm aware about 0.58 body relative merits when it comes down to WA, however I cannot claim WA is my solely affair, I like long lenses (up to 90mm with RF relevance) not less to say at least, so 0.72 is a good compromise. IMHO, 0.72 seems to be the optimal trade-off for 35mm-90mm range, two others (0.58 and 0.85) appear to be more specialized species. Yet unfortunately, owing two bodies easch dedicated to the appropriate focal range is far off my bearable budget either...
What I forgot to mention - I'm an eye glasses wearer which may be the part of the problem interfaring with 28mm frame usefulness for me - sounds to be a good excuse for the sight-correction surgery I'm planing within 2-3 years...LOL

 

[Ken Ford]

A lot of it depends on your physical characteristics. People with pronounced eyebrow ridges seem to have a heck of a time seeing the entire 28mm frameline, while others of us don't have any issues. It seems to be a function of how close you can get the old eyeball to the eyepiece!

 

[Xmas]

Alex

Specs which I also wear are a real problem, I'm not keen on contacts.

Being left eyed is an additional problem, is there any way you can use right eye, in finder with other eye open?

Noel

 

[Nick R.]

Never had a problem with mine. I think if you actually had to frame instead of just "trying it out" you would adapt pretty quickly.

 

[Flyfisher Tom]

Alex,

As a spec wearer, I find it nearly impossible, so I ended up getting a cv 28mm VF. Now it is a delight to use the 28mm 🙂

 

[amateriat]

While visiting a colleague of mine in Manhattan last night (where I was helping out with a film-scanner issue he was having), he handed me his new-ish .85 M6. Works wonders with 50 and 90 (the latter of which is the reason he got this particular Leica...also complements his M3 quite well), but ouch, those 28mm framelines. For this reason – he has a 28mm f/1.9 CV as well – he wears a contact for his right eye only when he puts the 28 on, and he claims it works just fine. I prefer the "sweet spot" magnification of my Hexars, however, which give me very little grief with a 28, spectacles and all. And, when I finally get the change together for an M6, it'll be a "standard" .72.


- Barrett

 

[SDK]

As a 28mm lover, I prefer my 0.58x M7 body. It really is far superior for ease of use with 28mm and 35mm lenses. 0.58x is acceptably useable for 50mm, 75mm and even 90mm/2 lenses, though sometimes I take the 0.72x for them.

 

[wlewisiii]

Wonder if I can get a .58x finder put into an M-5? Hmm...

William