HU: Hexanon 21-35 for Leica M

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Item number: 280241835279. It's going with a BIN of $1600, which is a bargain considering what others ask for this same lens.

As usual, no connection, link, relationship or anything with the seller. Just thought of posting this one as a type of public service. Besides, some time ago someone mentioned an interest in one of these lenses, but I cannot recall who that was.

Have fun! 🙂
 
Who would want a large 35mm lens that slow? Other than a collector that is. Yes 21mm is a b onus, but for the price you can have a CV 21 and Biogon 35 - both will be a better quality. As much as I like Hexanons - this one is not on my list. I'm amazed others ask even more for it - but than again - they've been selling theirs for forever and no takers. Maybe if was more like 900USD? But thats me. 😉
 
It's always nice/fun to know when these come up, because they do so rarely. The auctions are fun to watch. I'm a big fan of Hexanon lenses, too. However, like Kroysa, this one is not on my list, either (for the same reasons), so bidders will get no competition from me! 🙂 But I'll be watching. Thanks, Francisco.

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I have this lens, bought it off a RFF member at an excellent price. Kind of shocked how much they are going for now. Sticker shock of the WATE is worse. That is why the Dual's value is rising. Not many were produced. It is a wonderful lens and really no bigger then a Leitz 21mm Elmarit. The lens is sharp, convenient because of its dual focal lengths, and makes for a wonderful walk around lens. My only gripe is it doesn't focus as close as its single lens companions. I highly recommend it.
 
Same reaction here. I don't trust anybody with a feedback rating below 98%. no matter how sweet the opportunity might look like 😡
 
I have this lens, bought it off a RFF member at an excellent price. Kind of shocked how much they are going for now. Sticker shock of the WATE is worse. That is why the Dual's value is rising. Not many were produced. It is a wonderful lens and really no bigger then a Leitz 21mm Elmarit. The lens is sharp, convenient because of its dual focal lengths, and makes for a wonderful walk around lens. My only gripe is it doesn't focus as close as its single lens companions. I highly recommend it.

Do you have any pics from it you could post?
I do think it's a cool lens and I would like to try it, just not at that price! For about 900usd I would. More - I'll let someone else play with it. Maybe one day I'd get one for the collection, but some other Hexanons are way before it on my list - like 50/1.2, 60/1.2 etc. Maybe someone from RFF will get one on ebay and maybe we will get to see some pics from it. NOt many pics from it out there unfortunately.
 
I don't know if I would be interested or not, but the guy's feedback rating causes whatever spark of interest in me to quickly burn out.


I was just looking at his feedback rating and noticed that most of his negs came from sellers not buyers. The other thing I hadn't realised is that eBay calculates your feedback on your last twelve months of transactions.

Not that I want his lens! 😛

But his feedback is good as a seller when you research it! 🙂
 
C'mon Keith - I think you should get it! 😉 Test it well and let us all know the results. 😉


If it wasn't a bit slow it would be a damned fine lens on my M8, with the crop factor it would give 30mm and 45mm (roughly) ... $900.00 would make me think seriously! 😛
 
If it wasn't a bit slow it would be a damned fine lens on my M8, with the crop factor it would give 30mm and 45mm (roughly) ... $900.00 would make me think seriously! 😛

Yeah, but it is only USD, which might be worthless tomorrow. The lens, instead, could still have a value. 😀
 
I've purchased items from folks with relatively low feedback (97 or even 96 %) when I see that their negative feedback is really old, not from the last 6 months or even last year.

I believe these lenses used to go for almost two grands. Now that I think about it, this is only a bargain in very relative terms.

Keith, you can always make an offer 😉
 
Well, it is more of a collector lens. I prefer a faster one. If I have to deal with that size, it better be 1.2 lens, not f4.0. But I'm sure someone will like it. It may be a good choice for RD1 user.
 
That's funny...this lens, when it as first released, had a street price of about US$900. Oh, for the "good old days"...

Of course, my 28 and 90 M-Hex' have gone up in value as well, just not quite as high as the "dualie."


- Barrett
 
Actually, it was $1,200 when it came out and $900 when they were closing them out.

But that was a different market; a 35/1.4 ASPH Summilux cost $1,500 new back then. So in the grand scheme of things, the 21-35 was an expensive lens.

By Leica's standards today, it's an absolute bargain.

Dante

That's funny...this lens, when it as first released, had a street price of about US$900. Oh, for the "good old days"...

Of course, my 28 and 90 M-Hex' have gone up in value as well, just not quite as high as the "dualie."


- Barrett
 
I recall having seen it at outrageous prices (about $2100) more than once, which is why, when I saw this one, the first though was to post a HU thread.

As long as someone finds it useful... 🙂

Cheers!
 
Actually, it was $1,200 when it came out and $900 when they were closing them out.

But that was a different market; a 35/1.4 ASPH Summilux cost $1,500 new back then. So in the grand scheme of things, the 21-35 was an expensive lens.

By Leica's standards today, it's an absolute bargain.

Dante
Oh, tell me about it, Dante. 🙂 (And, thanks for the correction.)

This reminds me: your being the person who wrote the most comprehensive review of the Hexar RF I've read online (ultimately tipping my hand toward buying my first one, then building a system around it...yeah, that means I'm blaming you for all of it 😉), what's your Hex status as of now? No, I won't be slighted in the least if you've moved on...


- Barrett
 
I still have my RF (and I finally acquired a brand-new 28mm in January); the last time I used it was about a month ago, when I was testing out the 15 Heliar. Its ergonomics are something the M8 could definitely imitate. It got to be a lot more fun with a -2 diopter and the little case. Plug in a megaperls eyepiece adapter and a 1.25 magnifier, and it's good to go.

I have been debating whether or not to sell it; in typical gift-of-the-magi fashion, this camera (and its predecessor) generated so many good negatives that I am not sure how to scan them all (let's not even talk about the darkroom time - I get too depressed), and it may get sacrificed to my outsource scanning habit. I have 350 rolls of b/w left to do, and with a frame count of about 12,000, even doing the best 10% is a pretty monumental task. At the rate I am banging out prints in the darkroom, I will never catch up (well, maybe in 94 years).

The one mod to my RF was done by DAG, who (on his own initiative) shortened the back focus when he adjusted my M-Hexanons for the M8. All said and done, there was no discernible effect on anything. Getting M-Hexanons readjusted for the M8, on the other hand, yielded massive performance increases on the digital body and resulted in lenses that - contrast and resolution-wise - pretty much wipe the floor with anything but the newest Leica aspherical glass. To be fair, I had to have several Leica lenses redone for the M8 as well.

On the topic of the 21-35, it is a good lens - and more than capable of maxing out the M8's sensor at every aperture (up to f/8), both focal lengths, and every distance. It is much, much harder in terms of contrast than a Tri-Elmar, and its 35mm setting is a touch longer than the 3E.

The 21-35 is not as mechanically ambitious (or impressive) as the 3E (since the 21-35 lacks the auto-aperture compensation, third focal length, and auto frameline selector) - but it is a very well executed lens, with exceedingly smooth operation.

I am a little bit amused when people complain about the size or speed of this lens. It's not as big as people think it is. Nor is an f/3.4 maximum aperture at 21mm limiting (the fastest 21mm made is only a half a stop faster...) - or even an f/4 aperture on a 35mm. I have wandered the earth with Fuji GA series cameras, the fastest of whose lenses is f/4 - and have never been upset for lack of effective aperture. If you travel a lot, dual (or in the case of the 3E, triple) focal lengths are a much bigger asset than gaining 1/2 to 1 stop of speed.

I also saw the comment last week speculating that for the same money you could get a 21/4 CV and a 35 Biogon and get better performance. You would still end up with two lenses to fumble with, drop, collect dust, require UV/IR filters, or bang together in a camera bag. A 21/4 CV lens is not in the same league as the 21-35 optically, and a 35 Biogon is nowhere near as well built. The 21-35 was a halo lens for a company with cash to burn, it was designed and built like one, and if you take the time to put a calibrated M8 system together, it may be the only lens you ever need.

Dante





Oh, tell me about it, Dante. 🙂 (And, thanks for the correction.)

This reminds me: your being the person who wrote the most comprehensive review of the Hexar RF I've read online (ultimately tipping my hand toward buying my first one, then building a system around it...yeah, that means I'm blaming you for all of it 😉), what's your Hex status as of now? No, I won't be slighted in the least if you've moved on...


- Barrett
 
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