i am a die hard rf man...but what if?

I'll worry about it when it happens. Winston Churchill said something like, "I have had a lot of trouble in my life, most of which never happened."

Cheers,

R.
 
I would start using the Ricoh GXR with M mount that resides beneath the bed unused because I'd rather use film in a Yashica Electro 35 GSN despite it only having one functioning shutter speed.
Pete
 
I would worry more about the rapid death of the existing digital memories and the problem for my kids to see my pictures in many years than the suppression of RFs cameras.
 
goodtimes said:
I would worry more about the rapid death of the existing digital memories and the problem for my kids to see my pictures in many years than the suppression of RFs cameras.
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Do you really think a popular format like jpeg or dng will not be readable?
 
goodtimes said:
I would worry more about the rapid death of the existing digital memories and the problem for my kids to see my pictures in many years than the suppression of RFs cameras.
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Formats like JPEG are open specifications, any programmer who can read the file spec and implement it can view a JPEG. It is a myth that files on a computer can suddenly become unreadable. Someone can write a program to view them now, they'll be able to do the same in 100 years.

It's not a myth of course that many of us don't back up the photos themselves.
 
Therein lies your problem, I think the key is to rely on the data itself, not the mediums. As you say, DVDs and CDs are not permanent, but the data can be.

These days there are many off-site back up solutions, like Amazon S3, Google, Dropbox, Box.net etc. In the event that the internet goes away overnight, and all these companies go bust without warning, then you may have to rely on your hard disks/DVDs. However, it's far more likely we'll lose our negatives in floods/fires/theft/accident etc.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a film guy, and I'll argue for film all day, but for backups, digital has it film beat easily.

In your examples, there is nothing wrong with the technology, just the way it's used. If used correctly, digital files will outlast us all. The problem is that most of us don't use it correctly.

Much as I'd like film to be better for backup, it just isn't.

But you're right of course that digital backup is just as susceptible to mistakes as a box of negatives. However it is so much easier with digital to prevent the mistakes in the first place.

Cheers

Garry

JSU said:
It is no myth that CD's & DVD's are less than permanent media. I'm already experiencing loss of files on CD's burned several years ago.

The newspaper from which I retired cannot access photo files stored on early digital media due to failures of media readers and/or obsoleted operating systems that supported drivers not supported on current computers (Power PC v Inten Macs). Personnel cutbacks resulted in a loss of oversight of the photo archive that might have seen this issue evolving and transferred the files to current and more stable media.

They since have gone to a mish mash of outboard HD's (likely not as cohesive as a RAID array) which introduces other issues such as cataloging.

Not much different really than storing negs in paper envelopes in hot and humid attics and wondering why they eventually go to ruin.
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I use a very good local hosting service (they have many backups if something happens) and I feel there my files are doing pretty good.
 
I expect you're 100% correct about archival storage. The problem is that 99.999% of us just use a box next to our desk, or under the bed.
 
That's a weak point about negatives (or slides): there is only one of it. I have every confidence in them that they are still "readable" in a century. Except in case of fire.

And while I can store a backup at my place and one at my mum, I cannot do the same with any film based medium.
 
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