lynnb
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Looking forward to hearing about your discussion, at least those parts you wish to share - and seeing the pictures, of course! Glad it went well on both sides, from what I gather.
I am off to meet with Professor Noam Chomsky!
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ColSebastianMoran
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Raid, you'll be meeting a very interesting guy. I suggest you ask him about the impact of modern media (photography, video, internet) and ubiquitous information.
As for his positions, some are controversial, some eye-opening to me.
As for his positions, some are controversial, some eye-opening to me.
gb hill
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Lucadomi
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Lucky you Raid!
I really admire prof Chomsky
I really admire prof Chomsky
Rick Waldroup
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I bet you had a great time, Raid. I met him briefly in Austin, Texas, several years ago (a simple handshake and hello). We need more people like him. I cannot wait to see the photos.
NickTrop
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I have a man-love crush on Chomsky, Raid. I am jealous. I admire his intellect, his bravery, his thoughts on US politics are pert-much 100% spot-on with one exception. His opinions on Islam are wrong (I am in the Sam Harris camp on that one...) And if it was me, that's where we'd debate. I'd have spent my 40 mins trying to convert him. What an awesome experience. Post pics please!
paulfish4570
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busting a gut to hear your report, Raid ...
raid
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I am off tomorrow to Chicago to present at a conference results on carcinogenic air pollution in the USA. Once I am back, I will have some time hopefully to give you a briefing.
mfogiel
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I've just watched an interview with him on CNBC. A charming old school intellectual, that reminds me of some clerical figures. Capable of very illuminating analyses with a twitch: the twitch is, that he is not living in our reality. I admire his position in favour of peace and human rights, but he has not studied evolution, evidently. He said the problem of the world are the banks and the US government. It is like saying that the problem of a town square market, is that people pay the prices displayed for the goods, and a policeman watches over the law and order. Who is supposed to be enforcing human rights if not democratic governments? He said, that Putin did not want a Ukraine that could join the Nato, because it is a given, that any Russia would consider it a threat to its own security. "Own security?", that is the security of whom? - Putin and his gang. If Russia joined Nato and European Union and became a democracy, nobody would give a damn about its security, and Russian citizens could finally go after their affairs without the need of hating and fearing the strangers. I wish Mr. Chomsky to wake up before it is too late for him.
BTW, show us the photos Raid.
BTW, show us the photos Raid.
DominikDUK
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Looking forward to your briefing.
As for Mfogiel he would propably answer you that Russia is no more or less a democracy than the US, and most other western countries. The Russian Duma and even Iran have a larger opposition in Parlament than the US for example. Democracy is a myth except for Switzerland that is. He would also tell you that it was NATO that moved towards Russia and did in fact not want a collaboration with Russia and not the other way around. The same applies to the EU remember Putin wanted a Union that streched from Spain to Vladivostok. Republic is not equal to democracy. Regarding human rights he would tell you that the worst human right offenders in recent years are the so called western democracies and some of their friends (Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, etc...). As a final word he would say Putin is a dictator but so are many other so called leaders.
What I don't like about Chomsky is his obsession with making Israel the bad guy sometimes they are sometimes they are not justl like any other country in the world.
It's better to talk about pictures than politics the latter only causes ulcers. 🙂
As for Mfogiel he would propably answer you that Russia is no more or less a democracy than the US, and most other western countries. The Russian Duma and even Iran have a larger opposition in Parlament than the US for example. Democracy is a myth except for Switzerland that is. He would also tell you that it was NATO that moved towards Russia and did in fact not want a collaboration with Russia and not the other way around. The same applies to the EU remember Putin wanted a Union that streched from Spain to Vladivostok. Republic is not equal to democracy. Regarding human rights he would tell you that the worst human right offenders in recent years are the so called western democracies and some of their friends (Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, etc...). As a final word he would say Putin is a dictator but so are many other so called leaders.
What I don't like about Chomsky is his obsession with making Israel the bad guy sometimes they are sometimes they are not justl like any other country in the world.
It's better to talk about pictures than politics the latter only causes ulcers. 🙂
dotur
od karnevala
Mfogiel, just wanted to say how I admire the splendid view from your Monaco office balcony. :angel:
nongfuspring
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From a recent Princeton study that has been making the rounds (http://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/...sting_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf):
“In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule—at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites and/or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover … even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.”
I wouldn't worry too much about Mfogiel, he's the same guy that said there's no such thing as a good digital photograph (while being unable to pick them apart) and that colour film is inherently inferior to BW.
Chomsky is a smart guy, a bit overly didactic but maybe that's necessary sometimes.
Richard G
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Ivan, thank you very much for reminding me of that wonderful photo of Marek's.
dotur
od karnevala
The pleasure was mine, Richard! 😎
DominikDUK
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nongfuspring I don't worry about mfogiel he has a right to his opinion and he makes decent photographs in a photo forum the latter is of more importance than the posters political views (unless they are extreme say certain right wing or leftists ideologies). And there are plenty of very good contributions by mfogiel.
If more politicians were photographers we would have world peace as they would be too busy with uploading their images to flickr, facebook , etc.. and frequent photo forum, to start a war or act against the public. Photography is the solution to reach world peace 🙂
If more politicians were photographers we would have world peace as they would be too busy with uploading their images to flickr, facebook , etc.. and frequent photo forum, to start a war or act against the public. Photography is the solution to reach world peace 🙂
mfogiel
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Haha, I see I've stirred up a debate... You know, a lot of people - but not everybody - have the same humanistic ideas, but not all of them agree about how it is possible to improve things, so a debate is always useful, as long as it does not become a battle of insults. I bet nobody of you know my story and why I live where I live, so it is better to discuss ideas than facts that can be misleading.
However, I am absolutely positive about liking B&W film more than colour, not to mention digital !
BTW Raid - which medium have you used?
However, I am absolutely positive about liking B&W film more than colour, not to mention digital !
BTW Raid - which medium have you used?
Photog9000
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He who ignores the past is doomed to repeat it. :bang:
After reading some of his comments saying that today's Democrats are just rehashed moderate Republicans, I seriously question his thoughts on politics. I would have to do more research on his other work as I am not very familiar with him.
raid
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I am being unofficialy the link person between The publisher Springer and Noam Chomsky's office to see if he is willing to contribute a biography narrative of some sort to Springer. "There are several individuals writing bigrraphies on Professor Chonsky", I was told, but I tried to convince them that it would be a write-up that Professor Chomsky himslef.
Ranchu
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peterm1
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"He who ignores the past is doomed to repeat it.
After reading some of his comments saying that today's Democrats are just rehashed moderate Republicans, I seriously question his thoughts on politics."
In my case saying I question his thoughts on politics is an understatement of the century. He is an old school far-left leftist. I especially loathe his hatred of Israel. Talk about self hating (being of Jewish stock himself). Still he is not alone in this, I have close association with some Jewish folk who were raised and indoctrinated by Leftists who put their absurd, violently anti western ideology before their heritage. And before common sense. To want to over throw the free world and replace it with some idealized form of socialism that will inevitably drag everyone down to the level of the Soviet Union just before is went into the dustbin of history, well, I cannot fathom it. In fact it makes me feel somewhat as if I want to upchuck. You may have gathered this is something I feel strongly about. Sorry. There endeth the lesson.
After reading some of his comments saying that today's Democrats are just rehashed moderate Republicans, I seriously question his thoughts on politics."
In my case saying I question his thoughts on politics is an understatement of the century. He is an old school far-left leftist. I especially loathe his hatred of Israel. Talk about self hating (being of Jewish stock himself). Still he is not alone in this, I have close association with some Jewish folk who were raised and indoctrinated by Leftists who put their absurd, violently anti western ideology before their heritage. And before common sense. To want to over throw the free world and replace it with some idealized form of socialism that will inevitably drag everyone down to the level of the Soviet Union just before is went into the dustbin of history, well, I cannot fathom it. In fact it makes me feel somewhat as if I want to upchuck. You may have gathered this is something I feel strongly about. Sorry. There endeth the lesson.
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