I think I'm starting to get used to the D300s

farlymac

farlymac

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The Star City Cruisers put on their 47th Annual Car and Bike Show at the VeteransAdministrationMedicalCenter in Salem, VA. It’s always a nice mix of vehicles, and this year Mission BBQ, a local restaurant that supports veterans, served up the eats.

Nikon D300s with DX AF-S Nikkor 18-105mm 1:3.5-5.6 G VR at 200 ISO App Pri

At the gates

Nice New Yorker by P F McFarland, on Flickr


The local chapter of the Rolling Thunder motorcycle group

Early Morning Round-Up by P F McFarland, on Flickr


Chop top

1940 Ford Coupe Custom by P F McFarland, on Flickr


Engine dressing

Beep-Beep!! by P F McFarland, on Flickr


It’s a bike! It’s a car! No, it’s just plain ugly.

Polaris Slingshot Trike and Trailer 2 by P F McFarland, on Flickr


See the other 176 photos at https://flic.kr/s/aHsm3aCwxS

PF
 
Okay, now the question is do you think I'm getting used to the D300s? The only thing I did to these photos was crop for Internet display, and fix a few shadow details.

PF
 
farlymac said:
Okay, now the question is do you think I'm getting used to the D300s? The only thing I did to these photos was crop for Internet display, and fix a few shadow details.

PF
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For them to show up that sharp on my crappy office monitor, I would say you are very used to it.
 
My only question to you is why shoot at ISO200?
In that much sun 100 would have been OK.

(D7000 user here)

I enjoyed looking at the flikr pics too.
 
Farlymac;

On another thread you said you found that newer Nikon DX lenses wouldn't work on your D300s and, that you would need a newer D7500 in order to use them. I left a post asking which new DX lenses had this (you didn't say why) problem. My post/question went unanswered. Please let me know about these "problem, incompatible lenses".

Thanks, pkr


Farlymac wrote:

"So where does it end? I wanted to get at least one or two of the new DX lenses from Nikon, but found out they won't work on the D300s or D80. I'd need to get a D7500 to use them. And Nikon is designing their new cameras with the mindset of obsoleting the older lenses, so you have to buy new glass."

https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2750768#post2750768

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FX lenses will work on D300. I use a 35 2.0 AFD as a normal, 24 as slight wide.

any Ai or Ais or lens converted to Ai will work with manual focus
 
Ronald M said:
FX lenses will work on D300. I use a 35 2.0 AFD as a normal, 24 as slight wide.

any Ai or Ais or lens converted to Ai will work with manual focus
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Thanks ..

I've used both older and newer Nikon digital/film gear. I'm familiar with Dandelion Chipping
older AI - AIs lenses.

The question was about "newer DX lenses" and their compatibility with a D300s. I would really like to know about this problem, and... the need for the latest DX bodies (D7500) for use of the "newer DX lenses".

Maybe, reread post #6 for clarification ??

Hopefully, farlymac will answer my question..
 
BillBingham2 said:
My hope is that I will be happy enough when Nikon releases a FF Mirrorless body with a great EVF that takes AI glass.

But that's me.

B2 (;->
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I think they are working on an EVF camera for FX, DX. I would hope for a hybrid OVF/EVF. Both Nikon and Canon are heavily driven by sports photographers. Those guys have high visibility on TV and both Cos advertise at major sporting events. Sports guys want OVF until EVF gets as fast. At least, that's what I'm told.

Nikon is doing some reorganizing of it's camera lineup. I think they say.. fewer, better cameras. The D850 is a great start. Not something I need, but I like to see them do well with their products.

The way things are going, we may only have 3-4 camera companies in a few years. Fuji is in for the long haul I hope.
 
PKR said:
Farlymac;

On another thread you said you found that newer Nikon DX lenses wouldn't work on your D300s and, that you would need a newer D7500 in order to use them. I left a post asking which new DX lenses had this (you didn't say why) problem. My post/question went unanswered. Please let me know about these "problem, incompatible lenses".

Thanks, pkr


Farlymac wrote:

"So where does it end? I wanted to get at least one or two of the new DX lenses from Nikon, but found out they won't work on the D300s or D80. I'd need to get a D7500 to use them. And Nikon is designing their new cameras with the mindset of obsoleting the older lenses, so you have to buy new glass."

https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2750768#post2750768

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Sorry, I wasn't ignoring you, sometimes don't keep good track of all my posts.

I was referring to the new AF-P DX line of lenses, specifically the 10-20mm model so I would have a wide-angle zoom. It's less expensive than the older AF-S DX version, or any of the third party models. It's the pulse motor technology used in the AF that causes the incompatibility issues with older cameras. You have to read the fine print on Nikons web site to see the list.

PF
 
BillBingham2 said:
My hope is that I will be happy enough when Nikon releases a FF Mirrorless body with a great EVF that takes AI glass.

But that's me.

B2 (;->
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My thoughts on this is it would be great if styled as a compact, with a fixed mount zoom that retracts fully into the body for portability, along with an excellent EVF. While they are at it, they could design one to be a knock-off of the S2-SP-S3-S4 rangefinders so I could use my S mount glass on it. Then they could make an F styled one, as long as they ditch all the buttons, unlike what they did to the Df.

PF
 
AlwaysOnAuto said:
My only question to you is why shoot at ISO200?
In that much sun 100 would have been OK.

(D7000 user here)

I enjoyed looking at the flikr pics too.
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To me 200 is a good compromise ISO when going back and forth from bright to shadow/shade, and while using fill flash in the engine and passenger compartments.

PF
 
farlymac said:
Sorry, I wasn't ignoring you, sometimes don't keep good track of all my posts.

I was referring to the new AF-P DX line of lenses, specifically the 10-20mm model so I would have a wide-angle zoom. It's less expensive than the older AF-S DX version, or any of the third party models. It's the pulse motor technology used in the AF that causes the incompatibility issues with older cameras. You have to read the fine print on Nikons web site to see the list.

PF
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Thanks, i'll look at the Nikon site. So, the pulse stepper motor won't talk to older bodies? Do you know where the cut-off is on compatibility?

pkr
 
farlymac said:
Sorry, I wasn't ignoring you, sometimes don't keep good track of all my posts.

I was referring to the new AF-P DX line of lenses, specifically the 10-20mm model so I would have a wide-angle zoom. It's less expensive than the older AF-S DX version, or any of the third party models. It's the pulse motor technology used in the AF that causes the incompatibility issues with older cameras. You have to read the fine print on Nikons web site to see the list.

PF
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I read the Nikon USA site info and DPR and didn't see any issues with older bodies. I understand stepper firmware may be an issue. Maybe the older bodies need an update? But, I found no notices about that lens. Was there another lens in question? Let me know and i'll contact Nikon about this. Can you direct me to the "small print" you found?

Thanks, pkr
 
PKR said:
I read the Nikon USA site info and DPR and didn't see any issues with older bodies. I understand stepper firmware may be an issue. Maybe the older bodies need an update? But, I found no notices about that lens. Was there another lens in question? Let me know and i'll contact Nikon about this. Can you direct me to the "small print" you found?

Thanks, pkr
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You can download the Lens Compatibility Chart here.

PF
 
farlymac said:
You can download the Lens Compatibility Chart here.

PF
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Thanks. I read through the doc. It looks like the issue is menu/firmware with the newer stepper AF lenses. Firmware updates will solve the problem for some bodies, they don't say which, but older hardware is not compatible. It looks like Nikon is saving money by eliminating the external VR and MF/AF switches on their lenses.

In my tilting toward DX lenses for work, I've looked to sources other than Nikon for good optics. There's lots of stuff around. I'm not big on zooms, but use them. MF chipped lenses are a good choice.

You're interested in WA lenses. WA on a DX body doesn't need AF. Set DOF per aperture and you're set. I sometimes tape the focus ring on a MF lens, so it doesn't wander while I'm working.

You might want to look at good optics for your sensor size.
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sigma-18-35-1-8

With the sensor resolution of the D300s, you have lots of lens choices.

Thanks again for following up. I knew about firmware issues, but didn't know about the stepper problem with older bodies. The D300s is a good camera. Be sure to buy quality batteries and cards.

I haven't tried one of these, but would like to test one. Inexpensive!
http://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/samyangrokinon/14mm-f2.8-if-ed-umc/review/

http://aiconversions.com/
 
PKR said:
Thanks. I read through the doc. It looks like the issue is menu/firmware with the newer stepper AF lenses. Firmware updates will solve the problem for some bodies, they don't say which, but older hardware is not compatible. It looks like Nikon is saving money by eliminating the external VR and MF/AF switches on their lenses.

In my tilting toward DX lenses for work, I've looked to sources other than Nikon for good optics. There's lots of stuff around. I'm not big on zooms, but use them. MF chipped lenses are a good choice.

You're interested in WA lenses. WA on a DX body doesn't need AF. Set DOF per aperture and you're set. I sometimes tape the focus ring on a MF lens, so it doesn't wander while I'm working.

You might want to look at good optics for your sensor size.
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sigma-18-35-1-8

With the sensor resolution of the D300s, you have lots of lens choices.

Thanks again for following up. I knew about firmware issues, but didn't know about the stepper problem with older bodies. The D300s is a good camera. Be sure to buy quality batteries and cards.

I haven't tried one of these, but would like to test one. Inexpensive!
http://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/samyangrokinon/14mm-f2.8-if-ed-umc/review/

http://aiconversions.com/
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Thanks for the tips.

PF
 
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