jim.hiram
Newbie
Hello everybody. Long time lurker, first time poster. I recently got a hold of a new R-D1 and I'm excited to start shooting with it. I wanted to ask all the users here if you could recommend a lens with heavy vignetting when used with the R-D1. Yes, I WANT vignetting. This probably goes against the grain of a lot of shooters here, but I love the look vignetting provides some photos.
So I was looking for a rangefinder coupled lens that is relatively affoardable (under $1000) that has intense vignetting across all f-stops. I know the Super Angulon has crazy vignetting but the price is out of my reach. Also the 15mm CV isn't rangefinder coupled so I want to stay away from it (plus it's a tad too wide for my taste). I was looking at the 21mm Skopar and the 25mm Skopar. I hear that the 25mm Skopar has more vignetting than the 21mm (I know, weird...) but I'm not sure if this is true or not.
Does anyone have any lens recommendations based on personal experience or stories you may have heard?
Thanks!
So I was looking for a rangefinder coupled lens that is relatively affoardable (under $1000) that has intense vignetting across all f-stops. I know the Super Angulon has crazy vignetting but the price is out of my reach. Also the 15mm CV isn't rangefinder coupled so I want to stay away from it (plus it's a tad too wide for my taste). I was looking at the 21mm Skopar and the 25mm Skopar. I hear that the 25mm Skopar has more vignetting than the 21mm (I know, weird...) but I'm not sure if this is true or not.
Does anyone have any lens recommendations based on personal experience or stories you may have heard?
Thanks!
filmfan
Well-known
For "intense vignetting across all f-stops," I would say get a lens hood that is too small for your wide angle lens... like a 50mm hood on a 25mm lens or something. That is the only way I know how to get vignetting across all apertures regardless of the lighting... Personally, I just open up in strong light and take off the lens hood if I want vignetting...
O. Pyykkö
Member
CV 12/5.6 shows heavy vignetting. The fact that it's not rangefinder coupled is not really an issue; depth of field extends like from 1m to infinity even wide open.
Vignetting can be easily added/removed in post-processing, so I wouldn't narrow down my lens choises because of that.
Vignetting can be easily added/removed in post-processing, so I wouldn't narrow down my lens choises because of that.
jim.hiram
Newbie
Thank you very much for the replies guys.
filmfan- I am going for an optical vignetting that is 'natural' looking, uneven and unpredictable. If that makes sense...I don't want a constant 'shadow' around my images like I'm looking through a telescope.
O.Pyykko- Yes, I know the CV 12 and 15 are heavy vignetting lenses but it's a bit too wide for my taste. I don't necessarily like the distortion it causes. I don't mind the non-coupling issue with those. Also, I'm trying to do as little post-processing as possible. I owned many DSLRs before my R-D1, and to be honest, I'm getting sick of having to PP all of my photos to death to achieve a certain 'look'. Call me a purist, but, I want to try and get certain shots only with my camera and my lens.
Anyone else with recommendations?
filmfan- I am going for an optical vignetting that is 'natural' looking, uneven and unpredictable. If that makes sense...I don't want a constant 'shadow' around my images like I'm looking through a telescope.
O.Pyykko- Yes, I know the CV 12 and 15 are heavy vignetting lenses but it's a bit too wide for my taste. I don't necessarily like the distortion it causes. I don't mind the non-coupling issue with those. Also, I'm trying to do as little post-processing as possible. I owned many DSLRs before my R-D1, and to be honest, I'm getting sick of having to PP all of my photos to death to achieve a certain 'look'. Call me a purist, but, I want to try and get certain shots only with my camera and my lens.
Anyone else with recommendations?
mh2000
Well-known
umm... photoshop it in, then you have compete control and don't even have to add it when it doesn't help your image... really... lots of people do it.
mh2000
Well-known
PS you have to do some PP, so just create an action when you get the vignette you like...
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wlewisiii
Guest
No intent to be smart as*ed, but why not a simple bit of cardboard cut to give the vignetting you want? That's worked for many photog's over the past 150 years after all... ?
William
William
android
Established
You can pretty much achieve anything you'd get randomly with a lens by using the vignetting tool in Lightroom. Have you looked at what that can do?
breathstealer
Established
And since you have an RD-1, you might as well just use Epson PhotoRAW to put the vignetting in. I normally use it in the opposite way to remove vignetting from shots with my CV 21/4P, which you may want to look into. Doesn't come with a finder, so I picked up the CV 28mm and it's been a pretty good combo so far.
Spyderman
Well-known
I guess the OP doesn't mean vignetting as when a filter or a hood blocks the corners completely, but rather gradual darkening of image from center to corners.
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
The CV21 vignettes pretty well. Removable in Lightroom or PS when you want it removed. Send me a PM if you'd like to buy mine (though don't take my word for it, look around for image samples!), I recently got the 15mm Heliar and use it a lot more.
charjohncarter
Veteran
Or if you want to add vignetting digitally. This freeware has a nice group of presets in their filter feature:
http://www.photoscape.org/ps/main/index.php
http://www.photoscape.org/ps/main/index.php
Frank1969
Member
Why not use Adobe Lightroom. Then you can have vignetting with every lens and as much or as less as you want it.
jim.hiram
Newbie
Thanks for the replies guys. But like I said in my original post, I do NOT want to PP the vignetting into my photos. And I don't want to tape something onto the end of my lens.
I just want some lens recommendations from your past experiences. That is all. Please do not keep posting repetitively about Lightroom and Photoshop. I have those tools. I know what they can do. I know what I can do with them. Yes, I have the knowledge to make a photo from a disposable camera look like it came from a Hasselblad. That's not the point.
I guess I came to the wrong place for some simple recommendations.
I just want some lens recommendations from your past experiences. That is all. Please do not keep posting repetitively about Lightroom and Photoshop. I have those tools. I know what they can do. I know what I can do with them. Yes, I have the knowledge to make a photo from a disposable camera look like it came from a Hasselblad. That's not the point.
I guess I came to the wrong place for some simple recommendations.
kevin m
Veteran
You crop it square?
maddoc
... likes film again.
I have seen the Super-Angulon for ~ 750 USD (without finder etc.) but it only vignettes down to f/5.6 or so (the Noctilux down to f/2.8). This is valid for film cameras, using a R-D1s with its crop factor of 1.5x (and using only the inner image circle) will make it even more difficult to find a strongly vignetting lens.
jim.hiram
Newbie
kevin m- LOL
maddoc- I have heard and read that the R-D1 causes lenses that normally do not vignette on film bodies, to do so unexpectedly. It has to do with light entering the sensor on a steep angle.
Any R-D1 users here own a 25mm Skopar?
maddoc- I have heard and read that the R-D1 causes lenses that normally do not vignette on film bodies, to do so unexpectedly. It has to do with light entering the sensor on a steep angle.
Any R-D1 users here own a 25mm Skopar?
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
All super-wides seem to vignette on the R-D1. As I learned in another thread recently, it's not the lens' own vignetting, but the angle of light to the sensor. The 15mm Heliar has very little vignetting on film, but vignettes a fair amount on the R-D1.
I do think the 21mm CV is a good option for the OP, though I question his need of rangefinder coupling. I never use it, myself--with a 21mm lens, scale focusing is almost always more than adequate!
I do think the 21mm CV is a good option for the OP, though I question his need of rangefinder coupling. I never use it, myself--with a 21mm lens, scale focusing is almost always more than adequate!
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
kevin m- LOL
maddoc- I have heard and read that the R-D1 causes lenses that normally do not vignette on film bodies, to do so unexpectedly. It has to do with light entering the sensor on a steep angle.
Any R-D1 users here own a 25mm Skopar?
Cross-posted!
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Thanks for the replies guys. But like I said in my original post, I do NOT want to PP the vignetting into my photos. And I don't want to tape something onto the end of my lens.
I just want some lens recommendations from your past experiences. That is all. Please do not keep posting repetitively about Lightroom and Photoshop. I have those tools. I know what they can do. I know what I can do with them. Yes, I have the knowledge to make a photo from a disposable camera look like it came from a Hasselblad. That's not the point.
I guess I came to the wrong place for some simple recommendations.
Don't be discouraged--you were not clear in your original post about your level of experience, or your familiarity with that software. Everyone is trying to answer you honestly.