IIIc with Summitar

[back alley]

Joe, there aren't any clamp on filters of Leitz for Summitars, the OD is nominally 41mm, whereas a Summicron is 42mm and Elmars are 36mm. Summitar lens hoods clip on though, using an anular groove which Frank's lens does appear to have.

I know bug*er all about Canon P's though !

John C.

i believe ya! i know little of leicas.

my leitz clamp on filters are for a 34mm size & they are at 36mm. very nicely made, substantial.

i think they fit elmay and maybe sum moron (😉)

joe

 

[Nikon Bob]

The Summitar is a good lens and here is an example. My 2 examples do have filter threads.

Bob

 

[VictorM.]

The Summitars do have threads...hidden deep down next to the glass. The filters are threaded at the bottom of a taper to reach the lens' threads.

 

[FrankS]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, "This site rocks!" Thank you all for your help. This has been my first brush with a Summitar, and sure enough, after your directions and a check with a loup, there are filter threads after-all, right up against the glass. Live and learn!

The shade for my 50mm Summicron (12585) fits onto this lens just fine. (Does that mean it's really a Summicron? - sorry for my ignorance on this, I'm learning here.)

Does it make any sense to buy a Summitar if one already has a collapsible Summicron?

Any takers on the body? I've included more pics and one of them shows the blisters on the back of the top deck.

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

The shade for my 50mm Summicron (12585) fits onto this lens just fine. (Does that mean it's really a Summicron? - sorry for my ignorance on this, I'm learning here.)

The outside diameter of the Summitar, collapsible Summicron, 60s Summicron and penultimate version (mine) is the same, so you can use the same shade (I have that shade, and use it on my Summitar from time to time).

Does it make any sense to buy a Summitar if one already has a collapsible Summicron?

Frank...are you kidding? First of all, you're asking the wrong crowd; second, the Summitar and collapsible Summicron are two different beasts; virtually similar (they say) when stopped down at f/4 or f/5.6 and beyond, but the Summitar has a completely different personality wide open up to f/4 from any other lens out there. You want vintage look? Just try a coated Summitar at f/2.

Any takers on the body? I've included more pics and one of them shows the blisters on the back of the top deck.

Give me a chime...I may be interested; I've always pondered the III.

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

I haven't uploaded anything to my RFF gallery in ages, but here are a few samples of Summitar shots (all shot wide open):

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=9676&cat=500&page=1

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=12284&cat=500&page=1

And on this one, the red was unusually strong (the Summitar is a relatively low-contrast lens -- forgot this was at f/4 -- also notice how soft it is at the edges):
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=10176&cat=500&page=1

 

[richard_l]

Any takers on the body? I've included more pics and one of them shows the blisters on the back of the top deck.

I have four or five blisters like that on top of the top plate of my M6. 😱 They have remained stable over the several years that I've had it. Except to a collector, they should have negligible effect on camera desirability. In fact, I'm somewhat interested in it myself. I would be even more interested if it were not for the money I recently spent on toys for my wife's Nikon system. (Okay, she and I share the toys.)

 

[Hektor]

FrankS, I,m really pleased for you now that you have found this Summitar. They are a very, very, nice vintage lens. Perhaps the best one for classic Leica screw thread photography.

It doesn't seem right to me to put a Summicron on a IIIc, almost disrespectful to the guys who came before us, and their careful and conscientious efforts to make cameras, lenses, photographs and History !

I urge you, if you can stretch the dollars, to keep the body and lens together. They are an integral part of history and should not be separated after more than 50 years by a whim of the moment. Keep 'em together for the next generation if you can Frank, you are their custodian now !

Regards John C.

p.s. If you've got a screw Summicron, put it on a IIIg, - not such a nice camera as a IIIc in my opinion. Spitfires, B17's, P51 Mustangs, and IIIc's, fought WW2. Give 'em a break !

 

[Film dino]

FrankS, I,m really pleased for you now that you have found this Summitar. They are a very, very, nice vintage lens. Perhaps the best one for classic Leica screw thread photography.

It doesn't seem right to me to put a Summicron on a IIIc, almost disrespectful to the guys who came before us, and their careful and conscientious efforts to make cameras, lenses, photographs and History !

I urge you, if you can stretch the dollars, to keep the body and lens together. .....

Hear, hear!

 

[FrankS]

I wish I could keep body and lens together, but unfortunately, I can't. I had hoped to offer the seller a partial trade for an autofocus Nikon and lens, but he said he'd like money to get into a digital camera. $300 I could swing, but not $600.

So, I'll take some better pictures of the body and send them to Richard and Gabrielma, and anyone else interested in a beautiful IIIc body for $300US.

 

[Hektor]

Sell your screw Summicron, they're easy to replace, and the later rigid bayonet ones are significantly better, -- hell's teeth !, -- sell your grandmother !

 

[Hektor]

FWIW a bit OT, not many people know a good unscratched Summar is sharper in the middle than a Summicron, - you lose the corners in the "bokeh" anyway, - but first, - find one !!

 

[Byuphoto]

Frank, I have a summitar and absolutely love it. It does have that old time classic look and I have a yellow and green filter. I got mine compliments of Ray_G and I can't thank him enough

 

[FrankS]

Thank you again, with great sincerity, for all of your responses. I've sold some stuff, and have some other money coming in, so it looks like I will be able to keep the camera and lens together. (The seller mentioned another possible buyer so I"m not 100% sure I'll get this kit.) Would anyone have any spare Summitar filters or a filter adaptor to sell?

 

[ScottS]

Thank you again, with great sincerity, for all of your responses. I've sold some stuff, and have some other money coming in, so it looks like I will be able to keep the camera and lens together. (The seller mentioned another possible buyer so I"m not 100% sure I'll get this kit.) Would anyone have any spare Summitar filters or a filter adaptor to sell?

Frank,

I may just have what you want. What filters are you interested in? I've got a few which I'm not using -- came along with another purchase a while back.

I won't be home until tomorrow, so I'm not sure about specifics right now, especially regarding condition. If memory serves, they're a bit dirty but can probably be cleaned off nicely -- the case the filters were in also had an unopened roll of Plus-X Pan, expiration date 1966, so these things have been sitting in storage for 40 years.

I know there's a skylight filter, polarizer (faded around the edges, so I'm not sure how useful this one is) -- both of these have the original box. There are also some color filters, but I don't remember which ones -- I'll get back to you tomorrow on that.

Also, if you're interested, I've got a Summitar barn-door hood available. Similar to the Canon 50/1.9 rectangular hood except it folds up when not in use.

Scott

 

[FrankS]

PM sent. Thanks, Scott!