John Robertson
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Anyone using one of these. My fathers camera bought in 1952.
One of the official types of camera on the Hillary Tensing Everest Expedition.
Fixed Coated 35mm f3.5 Dalmeyer Anastigmat (4 elements 4 groups)
five speed 1/25 to 1/200 +B
Still works perfectly and lens is very sharp. Shutter is virtually silent.
One of the official types of camera on the Hillary Tensing Everest Expedition.
Fixed Coated 35mm f3.5 Dalmeyer Anastigmat (4 elements 4 groups)
five speed 1/25 to 1/200 +B
Still works perfectly and lens is very sharp. Shutter is virtually silent.
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John Robertson
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I think I'll start a lonely hearts club!!
Jeremy Z
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Nice camera. Sir Ed would have NEVER found that, had he dropped it in a drift...
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Jeremy Z said:
Very true, apparently the famous photo of Tensing holding up the ice-axe with flags on it was taken on Kodachrome25 with an Advocate, the 35mm would have been an advantage, you could hardly ask Tensing to step back a bit to get everything in the frame!!!
The cast body is Silicon-Aluminium alloy, which is Vitreous enameled pale creamy white, there are very rare versions in army green and black. The black one I've seen, looks odd somehow!! I've just put a film in it today.
Jeremy Z
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Cameras with colorful history are fun to have around. We'll be interested to see some scans, once you finish that roll.
John Robertson
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Greetings to the Windy City, Jeremy.Jeremy Z said:
Posted some shots
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=6744&ppuser=193
Dunk
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Originally Posted by John Robertson (in Leica Copies)
Hi Duncan
Showing it off eh!!
Nice one, I'm off down the Foca road these days.
John R
P.S. did you ever get an Advocate?
Yes John I have an Advocate now ... S/N 1919-6244 E , Dallmeyer f3.5 lens S/N 433856 ... looks like same model as yours ie with the two black sockets to the side of the lens? ... This an extract of the Email received ref Model ID of mine received from David Gardner of PCCI after I replied to his Advocate Survey :
"Thanks very much for this information, which adds another little piece to my Advocate production jigsaw.
Yours is the earliest Series 2 that I know about which is synch'd for electronic flash (you will probably know that is what the E appended to the serial number means). Although this was available as an option - to order - it seems that not many people took that option and were quite happy with bulb synch. In fact out of the 72 Series 2 I know about, only 3 are x-synch. This perhaps indicates that even amongst the advanced snapshotters who bought the Advocate, electronic flash had not yet caught on in the mid/late 1950s.
In a nutshell: Series 1 1949-52 (f4.5 lens, no flash) - early ones with chrome pressure plate; Series 2 1952 - 60? (f3.5 lens, flash synch sockets, Ilfords own design); Series 3 (not official designation) has a Wray f3.5 lens, they are rare - perhaps only 10% of the total production of 10,000 cameras.
Then there are the coloured ones, black ones, hospital ones, underwater ones (yes!), aerial photography ones, the ones with the f0.95 Wray lens, the one with the Ross f3.5 lens, the one with the Ross Xpres in Epsilon, oh and the one with solid silver fittings which the Queen was presented with!
A very brief summary on my somewhat stagnant website (work keeps getting in the way of website): http://www.gbcameras.org.uk/ and the full detail in Andy Holliman's excellent book - see my website.
David "
The Advocate requires a service (sticky shutter very slow to cap) but as soon as it is operational will be using it and posting some pictures ... the photos taken with your Advocate are quite impressive.
Cheers
dunk
Originally Posted by John Robertson (in Leica Copies)
Hi Duncan
Showing it off eh!!
Nice one, I'm off down the Foca road these days.
John R
P.S. did you ever get an Advocate?
Yes John I have an Advocate now ... S/N 1919-6244 E , Dallmeyer f3.5 lens S/N 433856 ... looks like same model as yours ie with the two black sockets to the side of the lens? ... This an extract of the Email received ref Model ID of mine received from David Gardner of PCCI after I replied to his Advocate Survey :
"Thanks very much for this information, which adds another little piece to my Advocate production jigsaw.
Yours is the earliest Series 2 that I know about which is synch'd for electronic flash (you will probably know that is what the E appended to the serial number means). Although this was available as an option - to order - it seems that not many people took that option and were quite happy with bulb synch. In fact out of the 72 Series 2 I know about, only 3 are x-synch. This perhaps indicates that even amongst the advanced snapshotters who bought the Advocate, electronic flash had not yet caught on in the mid/late 1950s.
In a nutshell: Series 1 1949-52 (f4.5 lens, no flash) - early ones with chrome pressure plate; Series 2 1952 - 60? (f3.5 lens, flash synch sockets, Ilfords own design); Series 3 (not official designation) has a Wray f3.5 lens, they are rare - perhaps only 10% of the total production of 10,000 cameras.
Then there are the coloured ones, black ones, hospital ones, underwater ones (yes!), aerial photography ones, the ones with the f0.95 Wray lens, the one with the Ross f3.5 lens, the one with the Ross Xpres in Epsilon, oh and the one with solid silver fittings which the Queen was presented with!
A very brief summary on my somewhat stagnant website (work keeps getting in the way of website): http://www.gbcameras.org.uk/ and the full detail in Andy Holliman's excellent book - see my website.
David "
The Advocate requires a service (sticky shutter very slow to cap) but as soon as it is operational will be using it and posting some pictures ... the photos taken with your Advocate are quite impressive.
Cheers
dunk
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John Robertson
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Shutter is very Heath Robinson, but easy to service. When running properly it is almost silent at the slower speeds and a faint click at 1/200. The Dalmeyer lens is very sharp.
I've seen a black one and a khaki one, it looks hideous in these colours. I'd love to see a picture of the ones with the f0.95 lens!!!!!
I've seen a black one and a khaki one, it looks hideous in these colours. I'd love to see a picture of the ones with the f0.95 lens!!!!!
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John Robertson
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The Advocate was the "official" camera, somewhere I have the 1952 British Geographic magazine with all the advertising of products for the expedition in it (Smiths Watches etc!! ). Hillary himself used his own old folding Retina a lot of the time, probably because he was comfortable with it.
hjagis
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Picture taken on top of Everest was taken with Retina. Hjalti
John Robertson
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Yes the well known picture of the flag on the ice-axe being held aloft certainly was, but the British Geographic magazine from 1952, shows that they took quite a number of photos, whether they all were I've no idea. Sir Edmund was not forthcoming on even who reached the top first among the two of them!
Dunk
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Peter Loy has one on offer and seems to be in collectable condition http://www.peterloy.co.uk/Stocklist.htm
Cheers
dunk
Cheers
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