I'm getting straight messages about film been alive.

[Skiff]

https://rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2828073&postcount=20
Do you read your own thread?

Of course I do.

Kodak is next to Kaput and FujiFilm is cutting films, not making new ones for years. (Please do not push Fuji BW film "news", read about it first).

Neither is the film production at Kodak "next to kaput" nor is Fujifilm only cutting products. Kodak has re-introduced T-Max 3200 and is in the process of re-introducing Ektachrome. It is offering pro Image in Europe for the first time. Fujifilm has increased their R&D in their RA-4 silver-halide paper business and have introduced several new papers in the last years. They are running three RA-4 paper factories on three continents, more than their competitors together! They have introduced new Instax cameras, with Monochrome a new instax BW film and with Square a new format. They have introduced new 3-Packs for C200 and Superia X-Tra 400 for the NA market. And they have successfully started marketing for their standard films on instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fujifilm_profilm/?hl=de

Ferrania is BS, if you read ex-APUG fifty and then twenty pages threads it is obvious what this is nothing but SNAFU.

Film Ferrania has got a new investor and fresh capital. Now they can speed up processes. Why do you think an investor has invested his capital? Because film has a 'doom and gloom' future? Do you really think someone put his money in without numbers about the market and real demand?

As realist I count only available products. Available means - I go online press buy button and it is delivered as regular item. With week or two.
Or it is made per order, but it is available. Like Interpid.

So, then we cut not available products from your list it might become very short.

No, not at all. It is essentially the same list: Ilford, Kodak, Fujifilm, Foma, Adox, Bergger, Polaroid, Tetenal, Spur, Moersch, Bellini, Photographers Formulary, Kaiser, Jobo, Heiland, Kienzle, Dunco, Filmomat, Chroma, Chamonix, Intrepid, Alpa, VDS, ars-imago, Walker, Leica, Arca-Swiss, Stenopaika, Ondu, Nopo, Zero, LeRouge, Peak.....and this fall Film Ferrania will have its P30 film in continous production.

And if you really want to know what is currently happening in the film photography scene, especially the young scene, just look at instagram: The number of film photographers and film shots there is growing in an exponential way.

 

[HHPhoto]

Hi,

some very interesting statements from lab owners and customers on photrio concerning this topic:
1. Lab customer in Scottsdale, Arizona:
"I dropped off a roll of Fujicolor 100 at Wilson's Camera here in Scottsdale AZ, The tech told they are up to 50 + rolls a week, mostly from 20 to 30 shooters using vintage all mechanical cameras. They still carry used gear, biggest sellers are Minolta 100 and 200s along with assortment of Canon FTBs."

2. Lab customer in Glendale, California:
"I live in Glendale, CA a small city tucked into the greater Los Angeles area, you'd never be able to tell that you crossed into Los Angeles from Glendale and vice versa. My local lab in glendale has had their business expand so much that they actually lowered their prices for processing+scanning. It used to be that Mike the owner, and i would chat for 20 mins and he'd show off his noritsu LS-1800 to me and talk about photography. Gone are those days, we hardly talk anymore because he is so busy. His wife an daughter now work there full time, and he's looking to expand into a larger space and start E6 and open a small darkroom rental."

3. Lab Customer Dan Bayer, Colorado:
"Great news, our labs in Denver are also seeing steady if not increasing work come in."

4. Lab customer in London, UK:
"As far as I can tell, here in the area in and around London (UK) labs ceased closing a few years ago and the remaining high street minilabs are reporting significant increases in film processing."

5. From a mini-lab owner in Ireland, located in the countryside:
"I have a mini lab in a small town in the sticks, in a small country on the periphery of Europe. We have had the best six months film processing in the last 5 years. We have on average a 50% increase in film processing in that time frame."

6. Brady Eklund, lab owner in the Mid-West:
"I was in a room about a month ago with people from about 20 other mini labs with a couple of representatives from Kodak Alaris and Fujifilm. All the labs were seeing an increase in film developing and sales. The guy from Kodak estimated demand for their film had increased around 15% in 2017 and another 20% this year. It was a very interesting discussion."

And then we have the statements of the big labs "The Darkroom" and "Richard" also saying they have increasing demand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQvx_SlnvH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzn69FPX9XU
And from the "Rewind Lab" in Sydney: "Film Resurgence is huge"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ViLGwWBEDE

My two local labs also see increasing demand.
There is really something going on in the film photography scene.

Cheers, Jan

 

[rionda]

My two local labs also see increasing demand.
There is really something going on in the film photography scene.

I agree. For another data point, the lab I go to in SoHo (Manhattan), is always packed, mostly of young people (counting me at 32? ). I asked the owner and he told me that they are busier than ever with hundreds of rolls to process (it got lost in the noise whether that amount is per day or per week, but I understood per day). Surely in part it must be because there are fewer labs around, but he was very positive.

Also, I walk around SoHo and NoHo with my RFs every day, and almost every day I see at least one film camera, and some days many more (without counting all those that I see at the aforementioned lab). Some of them are tourists, but there are a number of young locals and not young locals (e.g., there's an older guy that often hangs out at Elizabeth St Garden with his Pentax SLR).

 

[BLKRCAT]

nah you guys are wrong. Film is kaput.

 

[Huss]

And this is what kills me when my local Costco canned their film dev/scan business. Whenever I went in they had dozens of rolls of film drying/waiting to be scanned. What was meant to be an hour wait would often be several days. The guys working there told me they were always crazy busy. But Costco pulled the plug because they wanted all stores to offer the same services, and apparently in other regions there was not as much interest.

Dev was only $1.86. Dev +scan was $4-ish.
My local - Samys - is crazy busy and that is where I get my film devd. $6 though.