lukitas
second hand noob
There seems to be a feeling against photographs of people who may not be aware of being photographed.
I must disagree. Trying to portray life as if the camera weren't there is an honourable endeavour. Yes it's sneaky, but so is overhearing a conversation.
A writer will lard her novels with overheard conversations. A draughtsman does not have to tell anybody she's drawing them.
Why should a photographer disclose that he is taking pictures?
cheers.
I must disagree. Trying to portray life as if the camera weren't there is an honourable endeavour. Yes it's sneaky, but so is overhearing a conversation.
A writer will lard her novels with overheard conversations. A draughtsman does not have to tell anybody she's drawing them.
Why should a photographer disclose that he is taking pictures?
cheers.
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Ranchu
Veteran
lukitas
second hand noob
Thanks, Ned.
And ranchu, the subject is broader : people not knowing they are in the picture, not the homeless.
And ranchu, the subject is broader : people not knowing they are in the picture, not the homeless.
Ranchu
Veteran
So happy we're all on the same page!
Helen, here is something for you to learn about. Enjoy.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html
or
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
Helen, here is something for you to learn about. Enjoy.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html
or
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
J.Paul
J.Paul
The social correctors will always appear when the opportunity presents.
Come to think of it, Bresson was a terrible exploiter, taking photos of all of those unguarded moments in peoples lives, and when they were not looking many times..............shameful...........
lukitas
second hand noob
Quite. What a creep. Brrr!
mfunnell
Shaken, so blurred
That other thread arrived and vanished swiftly!
...Mike
...Mike
uhoh7
Veteran
Just when we were warming up a bit...oh well
But I repeat the Puritan credo:
Burn the photographer!!!
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
I support North Korean law for street photography!
Everyone who takes pictures in public should wear red pampers. On the head.
And make farting noises constantly.
Everyone who takes pictures in public should wear red pampers. On the head.
And make farting noises constantly.
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
When people stop behaving badly in public spaces, maybe then, maybe, I'll stop taking pictures of people in public places. Where is the uprising against loud cars, loud music, loud.. people? Where is the uprising against trashy public advertising, trash-littered streets, trash-talking.. people? Where is the uprising against over-paid free-market capitalists, free-spending super-PACs, and WAY-underpaid school teachers?? No... lets just ignore all the truly painful abuse that goes on in public and instead pick on photographers. I'll keep making pictures of anything and anyone I feel like, thank you very much.
AND... what exactly do any of these bone-headed censors think is going to happen to them when I plaster their pouty visage all over the RFF gallery pages? (Oops... forgot my meds)
AND... what exactly do any of these bone-headed censors think is going to happen to them when I plaster their pouty visage all over the RFF gallery pages? (Oops... forgot my meds)
Ranchu
Veteran
“When they make victimhood a coveted status that confers privileges, victims proliferate.” -Kim Jong Un
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
what did i miss?
lynnb
Veteran
Good quote Ranchu - but wasn't that George Will from the Washington Post?
(please don't take this comment to be a micro-aggression
)
Ranchu
Veteran
mfunnell
Shaken, so blurred
Well, he does have a certain expertise regarding the creation of victimsCould have sworn it was Our Dear Leader who said it...maybe that paper made a mistake?
...Mike
Ranchu
Veteran
He's in a big club with that.
Sparrow
Veteran
... do you think the surreptitious photographer has any responsibility as to how he represents his subjects or is he free to publish anything?
daveleo
what?
To me, this is the pivotal question here. And I don't think that it asks about photographers legal rights. It's a social / ethical question.
mfunnell
Shaken, so blurred
I find that an exceptionally interesting question. Me, personally, as one of the few dinosaurs still walking the earth, I find I simply don't care. If anyone manages to take a photo of me, they can represent me any damned way they like (as long as I'm out there in public). If I look a right goose, in public, then I deserve to since I do, or at least I did, look that way. [BTW: I mean 'goose' in the sense of an uncoordinated loon; not in the sense of an elegant feathered migratory bird; and I mean 'loon' in the sense of a crazed 'homo sapiens' not in the sense of an elegant bird with[...]...[...]and I mean 'sapiens' only in the sense of a generic species identifier, not an attempt to ascribe 'wisdom' to myself and I mean... well, what the *** do I mean? - and how many stinking disclaimers am I supposed to write these days?!!??!)].
Or, let me put this in a less disordered way:
I couldn't give a toss how I'm 'represented' in public. If I'm out there in public then I'm, well, out there, and it's in public. If someone takes a photo, well, it's their camera, their lens and best of luck with that! I take no responsibility for any breakages, and if their equipment goes on strike for 'representing' human ugliness, then that's the photographer's responsibility.
I've not gone out of my way to bung on a public persona. I'm not sticking MyFace on SpaceBook. I'm firmly LinkedOut, and I've spent most of my adult life trying not to be a Twit (with limited success).
I know I'm not a 'celebrity'. I don't think of myself as being just on the edge of fame, and don't believe I have to be my own image consultant - until the inevitable stage of fame - after which many seem to believe they'll no-doubt appoint a team of such. So I simply don't care how I'm 'represented' in public because I'm sure nobody at all could give the slightest [Anglo-Saxon word].
Which means I'm old! Everybody younger
[*] than me seems to think they're so damned well-known and popular that they already need to start curating their own 'Public image(TM)'.
...Mike
[*]By 'younger' I mean pretty much everybody, including you, even if you're older. One of the reasons I'm so fond of the modern world.
Sparrow
Veteran
... yes where the law meets ethics is often a complex interface ...
... voyeurism is covered in the UK by the Sexual Offences Act 2003, but I (personally) would question the ethics of some practices long before they contravened the Act.