In the market for new 35mm lens for M2.

[vrgard]

Well, that goes to show how subjective this 'bokeh' concept is, I happen to think that is nice bokeh under those circumstances, in addition to being a very good photo 🙂

Yeah, I don't really consider this bad bokeh. Certainly not a "bright distracting donuts" type of bokeh. But to me it's also not "knock your socks off" bokeh (whatever that might be....🙂 ). And thanks for the nice comment on the pic itself.

-Randy

 

[markinlondon]

I find nothing wrong with the bokeh either, Randy. It's quite a difficult background for good bokeh. I've been meaning to say "nice avatar" too, btw.

 

[leica M2 fan]

Randy

Randy

That is a wonderful B&W photo, so sharp and lushious blacks, white, and gray tones. I can't see that one would see this picture and say " I can't stand it because the " bokeh " is not that great. The picture can stand by itself on its own merits.
Frank : I speak only the truth. 😀

 

[BillBingham2]

Hi, B2! I have been wanting to buy a CV 40 f/1.4, but its abilitiy to bring up the 50 framelines has deterred me from doing so. Could you please recommend a place that can do the modification (for $40) so that it brings up the 35 framelines? Thnx.

I think Don over at www.DAGCamera.com should be able to do it for around that, plus shipping. Might try Sherry at www.sherrykrauter.com if you are closer to NY.

B2 (;->

 

[BillBingham2]

Another thought on where to get the 40 tweaked to bring up the 35mm frame lines. I bet if you ask Stephen (www.cameraquest.com) to have his repair guy/gal do it, you might save money and time on shipping?

Just a thought.

B2 (;->

 

[vrgard]

Just wanted to say thanks to markinlondon and leica M2 fan for the nice comments. Interesting, Mark, that you would notice my avatar as I've noticed your's many times since I try (feebly) to play guitar as well.

-Randy

 

[Crasis]

Must.. resist.. urge to give opinion..

Can't.. resist.. Damnit! Summicron 35/2 2nd-4th generation are all stupendous, especially the form factor. Frankly, bad blur can be emphasized by shooting into bad lighting anyways. The 4th gen cron 35 has a high and mighty reputation, but that may be because so many people swore by them BEFORE it achieved its high reputation. I found something quite interesting though, and Magus may find this interesting as well. I know someone who hates the latest (last 2 generations) 50 cron because he believes that they walked down the path to the dark side (optimized for colour photography), loves the 35/2 pre-asph 4th gen, refuses to use the 35/2 ASPH.. and get this.. thinks the Summilux 50 ASPH is the best 50 ever created.

We are not all created equal 😉. I love the 4th gen 35 cron myself, as it is tiny and sharp. It truly is an outstanding lens, but that's perhaps because I hate printing from very very contrasty negatives. There's only so low grade paper, or contrast filter I can go before I can't go any lower! Anyways, a couple of shots from this marvelous lens: One showing not so nice bokeh, cause hey, **** happens.

These are very large images but, eh, I'm not holding back 😛

 

[vrgard]

Thanks, Crasis, for not holding back! Particularly since I so agree with your comments. And very nice shots, too!

-Randy

P.S. Can you tell me where you got those "film frame" borders from?

 

[Crasis]

Thanks, Crasis, for not holding back! Particularly since I so agree with your comments. And very nice shots, too!

-Randy

P.S. Can you tell me where you got those "film frame" borders from?

Yeah, I get them from my negative carrier, which I filed down to give the full frame. Speaking of which, I need to buy another negative carrier so that I can file down a umm.. cleaner looking full frame border. This one is a touch messy 😀

 

[pvenables]

Tony

I don't have the Hexanon or the Biogon 35. I have a V4 35 Summicron.

What I was trying to say was that if the dinkyness of the V4 Summicron wasn''t so attractive to me, I'm sure I'd be perfectly happy with the optical performance of these other two lenses. You might visit a friendly dealer to see if you can compare different lenses, and feel how they work on your M2.

Hope this helps and happy shooting, whichever lens you choose.

Paul

 

[sharpf8]

I think Don over at www.DAGCamera.com should be able to do it for around that, plus shipping. Might try Sherry at www.sherrykrauter.com if you are closer to NY.

B2 (;->

Thank you, B2, for the information. I thought you knew of a place which has a fast-food-restaurant-type of service. Quick service, in other words. EssexCamera still has my Canon P, and it's been 3 weeks now. I am beginning to have butterflies in my stomach. 🙂 I feel that 3 weeks or more of waiting is torture. 🙂

I will give Steve Choi (Culver City, CA) a call and see whether he has a fast-food type- of- service to modify a CV 40 /1.4 lens, so that 35 framelines are showing.

Cheers.

 

[Flyfisher Tom]

Crasis,

Both are excellent portraits.

I give up, where is the "dud"-like quality of this lens ? 😉 All I see are great results.

 

[Flyfisher Tom]

Thank you, B2, for the information. I thought you knew of a place which has a fast-food-restaurant-type of service. Quick service, in other words. EssexCamera still has my Canon P, and it's been 3 weeks now. I am beginning to have butterflies in my stomach. 🙂 I feel that 3 weeks or more of waiting is torture. 🙂

I will give Steve Choi (Culver City, CA) a call and see whether he has a fast-food type- of- service to modify a CV 40 /1.4 lens, so that 35 framelines are showing.

Cheers.

If you have steady hands, ice-cold nerves, here is a DIY thread with instructions and photos:

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CcwG

Fast food enough for you 😉

cheers

 

[BillBingham2]

There really is nothing to it, just grinding down a bit of a tab. The 35mm frame line come up with nothing is mounted on the camera. 50 is the mid way and 90 is all the way in. Only thing to watch for is which tab and make sure the grinding do not get into the lens. He might just unscrew the mount, grind it and then rescrew it on.

You don't need DAG or Sherry for this one. I just do not have anyone I trust for Leica gear more closer.

B2 (;->

 

[Honus]

... I know someone who hates the latest (last 2 generations) 50 cron because he believes that they walked down the path to the dark side (optimized for colour photography), loves the 35/2 pre-asph 4th gen, refuses to use the 35/2 ASPH.. and get this.. thinks the Summilux 50 ASPH is the best 50 ever created. ...

Crasis - Either you have the ability to read my mind, or you have a very smart friend. 😀 You have just described the anguish and rapture that I have experienced the last 6 months. The photos are very nice, as well.

Randy - your photo is excellent to my eye. It shows the marvelous tonal quality that one can achieve with that lens. I would love to see a print of it.

Magus - always good to have a spirited discussion with friends.

 

[Crasis]

Crasis - Either you have the ability to read my mind, or you have a very smart friend. 😀 You have just described the anguish and rapture that I have experienced the last 6 months. The photos are very nice, as well.

I'm going to have an interesting time once my second M body gets here. The 35/2 pre-asph 4th on one body, the 50 cron tabbed on the second. Once I learn their relative strengths and weaknesses, I'll know when to use one and when to use the other to exploit their qualities. This is completely ignoring the fact that they're 2 different focal lengths. Just talking about their drawing abilities.

And yes, you should eat that for dinner.

Ciao 🙂

 

[sharpf8]

If you have steady hands, ice-cold nerves, here is a DIY thread with instructions and photos:

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CcwG

Fast food enough for you 😉

cheers

Flyfisher Tom: Unfortunately, I don't have steady hands nor ice-cold nerves, to do a DIY. 🙂 Al Kaplan, of photo.net fame, has had advised many prospective and current owners of 40 mm lens on how to go about it. Experience tells me however, that there are times that a "project" is better done by a person, who knows what he or she is doing.😉

A solution I am eyeing at to solve my dilemma is for a peanut-butter-and-jelly- sandwich diet to save money for a 35 f/1.4 lens. :angel: