24mgdriver
Michael A. Bender
HI, did anyone done some infrared pictures with the RD1 yet ?
..will do some pics like that now, hope it works :-/
..will do some pics like that now, hope it works :-/
sebastel
coarse art umbrascriptor
works quite well.
second batch on this page is IR (R72) on R-D1.
http://www.sebastel.de/daynotx/index.html
cheers
sebastian
second batch on this page is IR (R72) on R-D1.
http://www.sebastel.de/daynotx/index.html
cheers
sebastian
JeffGreene
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LeicaTom
Watch that step!
Interesting, very nice photos sebastian........wish I could get my little Sony CD500 digital to do this.....any suggestions?
Tom
Tom
24mgdriver
Michael A. Bender
I gota 920nm filter, it seems that i need much more time do make a picture. So, i have problems with focus, too. I will test the filter some days, if my new heliar 15mm arrived 
What can i do to have a better sharpness or better focus with my 50mm optik on the Rd1 ?
What can i do to have a better sharpness or better focus with my 50mm optik on the Rd1 ?
sebastel
coarse art umbrascriptor
tom,
unfortunately i have no idea whether the CD500 will be able to do that.
there are two components that need to work: the sensor needs to be sensitive to IR, and the lens should not show a "hot spot".
you may need to correct focus - the long wavelength requires bigger distance of lens from sensor. older lenses often have an IR index mark, missing on more modern lenses. then, only small aperture (= big DOF) helps.
for the IR sensitivity, you may try to take a picture of a remote control pointing to your camera while sending commands - if the IR LED of that remote gets visible, the chances are good.
nikon D70 and epson R-D1 work very well, the lumix G1 is rather insensitive but still works with long exposure.
now for the lens - you can only try. my experience: sony DSC-W15, ricoh GRD, Lumix LX3 show a rather bad hotspot, lumix LX1 works ok.
no probs with ZM lenses, the G1 kit lens is fine too, the zuiko 50mm/3.5 macro is no good.
the most affordable IR filter i know is the hoya R72, now out of production (but maybe still available at photo your retailer).
there are more expensive options by B+W and heliopan (and probably by other producers, too).
as long as you can screw filters on your lens, you may choose to just try out. the investment is not too much (i think - but of course it is up to you to take your own decision).
IR can be a be funny, but the effect also may wear off.
that's my experience in a small teacup.
cheers,
sebastian
note to 24mgdriver:
try out!
set the focus to shorter distances, and note how much deviation from the focus index you used.
the IR focus index (where available) usually is a red mark on the depth of field marks - it varies with the different lenses. sometimes it's the f/4 DOF mark, sometimes f/5.6 or even the f/8 DOF mark. if there is no mark on your lens, you need to determine it yourself ...
just for the record:
http://www.sebastel.de/palatine/index.html contains a few IR pics made with the G1 and my hoya R72 filter.
unfortunately i have no idea whether the CD500 will be able to do that.
there are two components that need to work: the sensor needs to be sensitive to IR, and the lens should not show a "hot spot".
you may need to correct focus - the long wavelength requires bigger distance of lens from sensor. older lenses often have an IR index mark, missing on more modern lenses. then, only small aperture (= big DOF) helps.
for the IR sensitivity, you may try to take a picture of a remote control pointing to your camera while sending commands - if the IR LED of that remote gets visible, the chances are good.
nikon D70 and epson R-D1 work very well, the lumix G1 is rather insensitive but still works with long exposure.
now for the lens - you can only try. my experience: sony DSC-W15, ricoh GRD, Lumix LX3 show a rather bad hotspot, lumix LX1 works ok.
no probs with ZM lenses, the G1 kit lens is fine too, the zuiko 50mm/3.5 macro is no good.
the most affordable IR filter i know is the hoya R72, now out of production (but maybe still available at photo your retailer).
there are more expensive options by B+W and heliopan (and probably by other producers, too).
as long as you can screw filters on your lens, you may choose to just try out. the investment is not too much (i think - but of course it is up to you to take your own decision).
IR can be a be funny, but the effect also may wear off.
that's my experience in a small teacup.
cheers,
sebastian
note to 24mgdriver:
try out!
set the focus to shorter distances, and note how much deviation from the focus index you used.
the IR focus index (where available) usually is a red mark on the depth of field marks - it varies with the different lenses. sometimes it's the f/4 DOF mark, sometimes f/5.6 or even the f/8 DOF mark. if there is no mark on your lens, you need to determine it yourself ...
just for the record:
http://www.sebastel.de/palatine/index.html contains a few IR pics made with the G1 and my hoya R72 filter.
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Johnmcd
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Cheers - John
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1joel1
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Is there a source for "How to do IR with R-D1" anywhere?
TIA
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seems it's time to track down some ir filters...
mwooten
light user
There are some older posts in this forum about ir and the rd1. If I recall correctly, they were by philfogel.
I've used the Hoya r72 on my camera. I just bought one in 52mm --which is the largest filter size I have--, and use step-down rings to the smaller filter sizes. I've forgotten what I used to aid in focusing -- i think it is in one of the old posts mentioned above-- but it may be at the 5.6 mark. Below is an old favorite subject of mine shot through the r72 with I think an Ultron 28. I think I used a +3 or 4 stop exposure with this setup.
(For kicks, try using the r72 filter and trying a human portrait--what I got was rather inhuman looking. I'll not post it, because I love her and I want her to keep loving me.)
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just bought a cheap r72 filter from china off ebay...
Johnmcd
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Not sure. But I use a 58mm R72 which I purchased for use on the Sony F717 which is a great IR camera if you utilised the nightshot facility which removes the IR blocker. Anyway, 58mm sits perfectly just inside the CV lens hood for the 40/1.4 Nokton.
I don't do anything special for focus or exposure except tighten up the curve and swap the blue and red channels if I prefer that effect. iso is 400.
I have other IR shots taken with the Sony and R-D1
http://johnmcd.zenfolio.com/f145771629
Hope this helps.
John
1joel1
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Thanks,
Joel
Joel
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when the end goal is b&w infrared images, is raw still the best way to shoot, or just shoot in mono to begin with?
my cheapo filter arrived and i will be trying it out on the weekend.
joe
my cheapo filter arrived and i will be trying it out on the weekend.
joe
gdi
Veteran
That one took the slow boat from China! When I used an R-d1 I shot IR at 1600 in raw, and adjusted from there.
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can't blame the seller for the delivery time. i forgot to put my condo # on the address, so it showed up here and the postal worker didn't know which unit to deliver it to. (unless he would have read the NAME on the parcel).
anyway, it was returned to china and then re-sent back to me.
nice shots btw.
anyway, it was returned to china and then re-sent back to me.
nice shots btw.
gdi
Veteran
Well not bad for a roundtrip and a half. The above shots were just tests, I am more of an IR film guy (B&W only, so far), but they showed me it could work.