Instagram kills photography

[Arvay]

I have Leica because I like mechanic cameras. I have also Zorki so...
Point is : Photo with great compositon and interesting motive CAN bi great photo even if it is NOT taken with great camera...Photo with bad compositon and not interesitng model CAN NOT be great photo even it is taken WITH great camera.

Oh, this is definitely the excuse
I read a lot of textbooks. Thanks for reminder.
Anyway I know too littlle pics of famous photogs made by bad cameras.

 

[Arvay]

what is real then? Is a photograph only good when it looks 'real'? why should we take photos then? they are never real - just a 2-dimensional projection of a short moment in time. is it wrong to shoot in b/w then because that's far from looking real?

don't get me wrong, i hate that iphone filter stuff as much as you do, but your point was that it might kill photography and that's just nonsense. it's just a trend as you said which means it will go away before photography will.

If tou think that photography is everything that has been shot by something - of course it is photography. I thought that photography is "painting with light". Maybe it is my mistake

 

[begona]

Oh, this is definitely the excuse
I read a lot of textbooks. Thanks for reminder.
Anyway I know too littlle pics of famous photogs made by bad cameras.

Go look to my gallery...some of photos are taken with leitz lenses some of them not (some russian lenes and japanese). If you can tell me which is taken with Leitz and which is not I will buy you one leica 😛

 

[NeeZee]

If tou think that photography is everything that has been shot by something - of course it is photography. I thought that photography is "painting with light". Maybe it is my mistake

technically you are perfectly right. But if you take that definition, photography has died long before when it became available to everyone 😉

by the way, google "Tony Vaccaro" and his wwII pics - most of them taken on an argus c3 - arguably one of the worst cameras ever... the reason why most famous photographers used and use good equipment is because of reliability - so not because it takes better pictures but because it's more likely it takes a picture at all.

 

[Arvay]

Go look to my gallery...some of photos are taken with leitz lenses some of them not (some russian lenes and japanese). If you can tell me which is taken with Leitz and which is not I will buy you one leica 😛

Oh, please...I thought that the myth that we are here walking down the streets with bears in furhats was in the past...
I can afford myself any Leica. Thanks for your offer.

I asked the direct question, you are trying to explain me that I'm inadequate "expert".

 

[Araakii]

I saw a lot of this stuff. You have no individuality. Colors are alvays the same and they are far from real.
I mean only postprocessing talking abt individuality of course

I think a lot of people look at THIS and they think this looks like film, when it's nowhere close.

Oh, but the even more amusing part is that, I've had multiple people looking at my MF shots and asking me what instagram filter I used.

 

[Arvay]

technically you are perfectly right. But if you take that definition, photography has died long before when it became available to everyone 😉

by the way, google "Tony Vaccaro" and his wwII pics - most of them taken on an argus c3 - arguably one of the worst cameras ever... the reason why most famous photographers used and use good equipment is because of reliability - so not because it takes better pictures but because it's more likely it takes a picture at all.

Probably my English is poor but the idea is that Instagram makes everything looks same. Without any relation to the work of photographer. It kills the individuality of photographer.

 

[Arvay]

Oh, but the even more amusing part is that, I've had multiple people looking at my MF shots and asking me what instagram filter I used.

That's one more reason I hate it🙂

 

[NeeZee]

Probably my English is poor but the idea is that Instagram makes everything looks same. Without any relation to the work of photographer. It kills the individuality of photographer.

have you ever thought of the possibility that most people who use this thing are not even seeking for an individual look or even see what they produce as their 'work'. they are having fun with it - get over it!

 

[Arvay]

have you ever thought of the possibility that most people who use this thing are not even seeking for an individual look or even see what they produce as their 'work'. they are having fun with it - get over it!

I had. And I talked to the people. They all want to be individuals with unique shots. Is it surprise?

 

[begona]

Oh, please...I thought that the myth that we are here walking down the streets with bears in furhats was in the past...
I can afford myself any Leica. Thanks for your offer.

I asked the direct question, you are trying to explain me that I'm inadequate "expert".

I am from Croatia. Nothing better than Russia 😀

I want to say that photo is photo. No matter what camera you use...If 1 milinon people use Iphone and take some photos witout "soul" time will show us quality of that photos. And we all know that photo without soul can not live much long.

 

[begona]

And quality of Your photos NOT depends of fact how many photographers are on Earth and which cameras they use.

 

[NeeZee]

I had. And I talked to the people. They all want to be individuals with unique shots. Is it surprise?

not really. just the standard hipster kind of individuality but no 'signature' as 'photographer'.

i agree though, that photography trends like this spreaded by the internet keep many beginners from starting like that should do i.e. looking at the work of great photographers instead of going for that new and hip style. on the other hand this is not a new phenomenon. there are millions of 'photographers' who think that photography is all about 'bokeh'. and i find that even worse than the instagram stuff...

 

[Arvay]

I am from Croatia. Nothing better than Russia 😀
I want to say that photo is photo. No matter what camera you use...If 1 milinon people use Iphone and take some photos witout "soul" time will show us quality of that photos. And we all know that photo without soul can not live much long.

I can say nothing as never been to Croatia unfortunately

And I would like to explain that photos differ. Especially from Instagram and any other device. Instagram is the drive of standardization. You stop creating when you have 10 filters to use.
Time will not show anything. If time shows, the film would be back, for example. But we do not see any renessaince.

 

[Arvay]

not really. just the standard hipster kind of individuality but no 'signature' as 'photographer'.

i agree though, that photography trends like this spreaded by the internet keep many beginners from starting like that should do i.e. looking at the work of great photographers instead of going for that new and hip style. on the other hand this is not a new phenomenon. there are millions of 'photographers' who think that photography is all about 'bokeh'. and i find that even worse than the instagram stuff...

The problem is that standard view being treated as "new art". Same thing is with Holga, but Holga shots are different from each other. Anyway they "invented" lomo-films that are being sold twice more expensive.
New art is a good point for marketing guys.

 

[begona]

If they can do anything alse except these 10 filter and they stops there they are not creative and not good photographers...and it not make any influnce on me...

I can not make agreement with you that Instagram kills photography... It is all in us...We choose our photography destiny 🙂

 

[bhop73]

The filters are just giving a photo a certain 'look' or 'color tones'.. much the same way the type of film you use will give you 36 exposures that have a certain 'look' or 'color tone'.

What it really comes down to is this. Use Instagram if you like it. Don't use it if you don't.

 

[Arvay]

And quality of Your photos NOT depends of fact how many photographers are on Earth and which cameras they use.

it depends of cource, because i'm not isolated. I'm looking, I'm listening what was used, I'm buying cameras for my tasks or for my pleasure that definitely give a sign to photos. You'll never make a good shot with the camera you hate

 

[Leigh Youdale]

C'mon guys. Arvay has obviously had a bad weekend. Probably his girlfriend dumped him or something. Cut him a little slack and agree with him. It'll make him feel better.

 

[Arvay]

What it really comes down to is this. Use Instagram if you like it. Don't use it if you don't.

Global. But not a reply to the topic