interested in MF reccomendations

cp_ste.croix

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i was wondering what people here might reccomend for someone wanting to get into MF photography (pref 6x6 i think).

my two main concerns are image/lens quality and price. i like available light photography mainly and would shoot primarily in B&W. I know responses will be somewhat subjective, but attempting to wade through everything on the net has me a bit bewildered.

thanks in advance,
chris
 
I think a Twin Lens Reflex is a great starter into MF, they will allow you to shoot in low light. But they are bulky and most of them non-interchangeable lenses

Other reccomendation would be a folder such as Zeiss Ikonta or similar. Gotta love those
 
Hi CP, Ikontas are great the farther away you are. For some reason, my Ikonta III's depth of field shrinks exponentially the closer I get to a subject, regardless of f/8 or f/11. I believe much of this has to do with the size of the film-size of lens-distance of lens to film plane.
One reason Ansel Adams shot at f/64 besides sharpness.

Ikonta's are cooler but watch out for bellows with holes. Always ask any seller about light leaks in the bellows! Ikonta III usually has a flash port on the lens too.

Anyway, a TLR is another cheap way to get into MF. The Yashica is usually inexpensive. If you have the cash, go for a Rolleiflex. Altho I've never owned one, I have a friend who has; lens quality was awesome, and a few models come with a meter (which may or may not work depending on age). And don't buy a Seagull. Pure junk, friends tell me.

chris
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The Minolta Autocord (any of them) is an awesome value in TLR's - the image quality (in my opinion) is better than the Yashica 124, and gives the Rolleiflexes a real run for their money. The latest CDS metered versions are incredibly accurate with a 9 degree spot meter. I had a CDSIII, the last Autocord produced and got some great shots from it, until I sold it :bang:

The great thing about TLRs is they're light, and with only the small movement of a leaf shutter you can get great results at slow speeds in low light. Except for the heavy Mamiya C330 and its ancestors the lenses are fixed and you're relegated to expensive and hard to find accessories if the 'normal' perspective isn't your thing.

If you're not looking to spend a fortune, I'd stay away from the Rolleiflexes, there's a real collectors market for them and the Yashicas and Minoltas are a much better value, likely to be in better shape and with better lens coatings.

I recently picked up a Mamiya 645 1000s with a 80/1.9 for next to nothing from Adorama. It had a pretty good coating of grime and dust and the light seals were pretty goopy, but the body and lens cleaned up to near perfect condition and Adorama took care of the seals for free. The lens is the fastest in medium format and has a very pleasing look wide open. The build and optics of all the lenses are of great quality, are abundant on the used market and dirt cheap. It seems studio photogs are dropping these in huge quantities for digital; Places like Adorama are having a huge problem moving their inventory, hence the great prices.

For available light, hand-holdability with slow speeds might be better than a fast lens - the DOF of the 80/1.9 is less than an inch wide open and close up, so the TLR might suit you more. If a selection of lenses and finders is important, you may want to look at the Mamiya.
 
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