jaapv
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Gary B said:
Gary, sorry to mess with your picture, I couldnt help myself.
Working from a web jpg is far from ideal, if you want this shot perfect one must use the right profile when converting DNG in C1LE,that would have gotten rid of the rest of the magenta and the residual yellow cast but still I feel this version may be closer to the original:
mwooten
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Gary B
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Photo was shot as JPG as i don't have Photoshop. Mostly use iPhoto and Graphic Converter. No problem with working over a test shot. That is what I shoot them for.
GaryB
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Photo was shot as JPG as i don't have Photoshop. Mostly use iPhoto and Graphic Converter. No problem with working over a test shot. That is what I shoot them for.
GaryB
jaapv
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Gary B said:
Why don't you use C1LE as provided with the camera.
It offers enough options to get very good results out of the M8 with very little effort.For most applications photoshop is not needed at all. I have not used my full version since I have the M8. Any supplemental things I wanted to do, PSElements with a few plugins was overkill already. Jpgs are a whole lot inferior to DNG's on this camera in my experience.Pinphot
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visiondr said:Screw the IR photo crowd, I say!
In the interests of maintaining Vidal's philosophy of liberal pluralism, this should only be an option. Admittedly, IR photography has has always been something I've never really taken an interest in and have no desire to do, (a bit like foxhunting), but i'll defend to the death one's right to do it.
How come it took you guys and gals so long before deluging us with opinions?
I'm actually an r-d1 user, but that does not mean that I am not taking an active interest in the development of the M8, as having been a Leica M film user in the distant past, I appreciate the engineering and haptics and would very much like to return to the fold. However I feel that the IR issues and lack of flash pc socket are deal breakers for me on the M8. In that I will defend the rights of IR photographers to have an appropriate tool for their purposes. I am not going to fetishise the Leica name by asserting that camera is purely a tool wielded by the spiritual heirs of Cartier Bresson. As someone who shoots everything from street photojournalism to lit portraits on whatever tool i feel suits the moment and is available to me, I feel that Leica has forgotten the bedrock of their customer base and those that their reputation is based on, the multitude of working photographers who have used their products for generations but have been forced into using the digital SLR at the demands of their markets. Leica have got to differentiate between the consumers of their products that buy limited edition snakeskin covered fetish objects and those that need reliable usable tools. The r-d1 is not the ideal tool, in that there are still some, (easily fixed), IR isues and vignetting on ultrawides but as a predictable tool, it works. It is half the price of the M8 and has been cobbled together as some frankenstein hybrid of Cosina, Epson and Nikon from already proven technology, (albeit in slightly different technological arenas), but at the end of the day it works and probably cost a tiny fraction of what it cost Leica to develop the M8. I would dearly love to go back to the handling experience of leica bodies, and may ultimately have to when the Epson ultimately wears out. However, I bet Zeiss are sitting back and taking very careful notes for if and when they should deign to release something onto the market, and unless Leica fix the M8 and make a predictable tool then most working photographers , (who are on the whole quite pragmatic), are going to pass Leica by and go in search of alternatives. The same goes for their lenses, perhaps if Leica didn't spend so much on r+d exercises which eliminate one set of quality issues whilst opening up an entire pondoras box of others, they could bring their lens pricing to a position where they could be bought by those who's imperatives are dictated by their wallets. I think a 28mm Summicron is very nice, but not 5 times as very nice as the Voigtlander alternative.
I have not posted this in attempt to promote a flame war, and ask others to respect this sentiment and see this as a rally to spirited discussion. However, I feel that if Leica is to survive then they have really got to start respecting the opinions of those who really appreciate the potential of the M8 as a working tool because I don' think they will survive solely on the sale of limited edition gold plated, snakeskin kitch. Although I'll defend to the death you're right to buy such things.
Well, maybe not quite to the death!!http://www.thebppa.com/Mark-Pinder
http://www.unp.co.uk/photographers/photographer.php?title=mark_pinder
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