Is it my age or ASD ... zoom on a rangefinder styled Digital ?

[dee]

At 71 , I guess that I am imprinted with the difference between SLR and Rangefinder which seems to have affected my response to my brand new just-over-£400 Fuji X-T1...

Got it home and it's ... 'right ' ... with it's 18-55 zoom.

A zoom is fine, correct , on the X-M1 compact ... because compacts have zooms ?

Not on the X-pro1 .

It's daft of course , 'cos it's just about styling , but the rangefinder styling cries out for a prime lens - the new 27mm which I bought for it initially ....

focusing with the OVF is easy with just one frame line to worry about ... it just feels more comfortable .

Does the style of a digital camera affect your choice of lenses - my M8 excluded of course !

Thanks
dee

 

[shawn]

I use both zooms and primes on my X Pro 2. Primes I usually shoot with the OVF, the larger zooms with the EVF.

I actually really love the 18-55 with the OVF. I see much more of the scene and then crop what is wanted to capture by zooming. Works great for some sports too as you can see the action developing and then better choose what to keep. The same sort of lens on a SLR (or the EVF) feels more like tunnel vision now that I adjusted to using the OVF with it.

Shawn

 

[ptpdprinter]

I use both zooms and primes on my X Pro 2. Primes I usually shoot with the OVF, the larger zooms with the EVF.

I actually really love the 18-55 with the OVF. I see much more of the scene and then crop what is wanted to capture by zooming. Works great for some sports too as you can see the action developing and then better choose what to keep. The same sort of lens on a SLR (or the EVF) feels more like tunnel vision now that I adjusted to using the OVF with it.

When I bought my initial Fuji, I opted for the XE2 instead of the XP1 because I preferred the EVF to the OVF with the 18-55 and had to use the EVF with the 14. The 35 f/1.4 also intruded too much for my taste into the OVF, so it was EVF for that lens as well. The Fujicrons were not yet available. I think the XP OVF only works well with a small selection of lenses.

 

[Dogman]

I have a couple of Fuji zooms but I've never used them on an XPro body. Actually, I hardly ever use the zooms at all but, when I have, I've used them on XT and XE bodies.

I use the XPro1 and XPro2 for their OVFs. I only switch on the EVFs when I need to check parallax or when I shoot something really close. Zooms on the XP bodies just seem...wrong.

 

[dee]

Thanks for the response to an odd question which I guess is about a specific comfort zone .
Dogman - i guess that a zoom on an X-Pro body just seems...wrong to me .

I guess that I should also revisit the 16-50 or 18-55 on the X-Pro 1 with OVF , initially I just had the 27mm , so may have got into the habit of that combination - especially as I tend to stick with 35mm on both my pre-Fuji Sony A35 and Pentax K-S1 .

I hazard a guess that the X-T1 with zoom is gonna be my preference , after all I bought it for that SLR style experience .

dee

 

[Axel]

...
I hazard a guess that the X-T1 with zoom is gonna be my preference , after all I bought it for that SLR style experience ...

I guess this question is more about OVF vs. EVF. The X-T1 is a fully electronic mirrorless and no SLR at all.

Personally I learned to use the advantages of the EVF years ago and it
simply doesn´t matter anymore wether there is a zoom or a fixed lens attached or what the sensitivity of light of the
lens may be.

 

[shawn]

Thanks for the response to an odd question which I guess is about a specific comfort zone .
Dogman - i guess that a zoom on an X-Pro body just seems...wrong to me .

I guess that I should also revisit the 16-50 or 18-55 on the X-Pro 1 with OVF , initially I just had the 27mm , so may have got into the habit of that combination - especially as I tend to stick with 35mm on both my pre-Fuji Sony A35 and Pentax K-S1 .

I hazard a guess that the X-T1 with zoom is gonna be my preference , after all I bought it for that SLR style experience .

dee

Give it a shot, you might decide you like it. As I recall the frame lines don't shift quite as smoothly on the XP1 as the XP2 but for non-sports shooting that shouldn't make any difference. XP1 AF-C is pretty rough anyway.

As far as a zoom on the XP body type the XP2 with 100-400 outshot my D700. Because of that I ended up selling the D700 and my Nikon zooms. The larger XP2 body with grip works very well with the zooms and helps balance the size. It seemed weird at first to me too but I ended up preferring it.

Shawn

 

[NickTrop]

Leica cameras and part of "Leica lust" is that Leica had the lines -- sexy angles like a sports car. SLR's? Not s' much. But they needed that bump to accomodate that mirror, which in turn made zoom lens photography possible. Now, mirrorless makers followed Leica's design footsteps. But form is not following function here when it comes to slapping a honking zoom on a mirrorless. They're (mirrorless) analogous to women's high heeled shoes.

 

[Darthfeeble]

Uhhhh, what were the tri-elmars essentially?

 

[dee]

luckily , i prefer the 40mm to around 100 range for the architecture I prefer , so a big zoom on mirrorless isn't gonna happen .
I have a budget Olympus zoom 40-150 for the Panasonic L1 , but hardly use it .
The tiny , light , ex Minolta 35-80 f4 , cropped to 120 is a favourite on the 'SLT' [ mad idea ] Sony A35 , but I still prefer to drop down to the 14mp CCD Sony A290 with it's rich colours .
I shall persist with the X-Pro1 with the 16-50 , but I will probably prefer the X-T1 with EVF [ like the familiar A35 which has a less successful EVF .

 

[jsrockit]

Does the style of a digital camera affect your choice of lenses

Yes, I hate using zooms on my X-Pro2. I'd rather use them on a non OVF camera. It is silly though...

 

[Axel]

... the 'SLT' [ mad idea ] Sony A35 , but I still prefer to drop down to the 14mp CCD Sony A290 with it's rich colours .
I shall persist with the X-Pro1 with the 16-50 , but I will probably prefer the X-t1 with EVF [ like the familiar A35 which has a less successful EVF .

Same here, Sony A33 for SLT and sensor stabilization and Fuji X-M1 for its colors 🙂
But I am okay with the Sonys EVF so the small X-M1 with display up and "TLR-style photographing" does the job for me.
Fixed or small zooms.

 

[dee]

Then there is the lightweight 135 f3-5 Rokkor on the Leica Digilux 3 - a genuine 4/3rds SLR -albeit with a squinty finder , but excellent wide open on manual at infinity , so no focus problems.
That's if I can cope with the flimsy adaptor sticking on the body , not too worried , the Dig 3 has had it's day , [ and I have the L1 ] so adapted to Rokkor-roll is fine .
Thanks - I am not alone then , I thought it might be an age or ASD element , never sure how real people see things !
dee