Rayt
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I would say $3k to the right collector.
Is my 1968 Summicron 50 black a rare piece?
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Erik van Straten
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Yes, the scalloped v3 is a rare and collectible lens, but it is not a black painted lens.
Erik.
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Waus
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It's a rare intermediate version. There's one for sale here:https://www.schouten-select.nl/inde...ummicron-6-element-coarse-focusing-knurl.html
There was also an intermediate version of the (black anodized)Summilux 50mm V2.
There was also an intermediate version of the (black anodized)Summilux 50mm V2.
Haha! Yes, I suppose a factory L seal means "allocate about $250 for a CLA and maybe more for curtains" 🙂
KEVIN-XU 愛 forever
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Their asking price for a version 3 lens is outrageous... That is what people paid for extreme rare black paint summilux 50 1.4 or black paint rigid...
Anyway, seems like the early batch V3 is a collectible lens. Congratulation.
Geo Toreno
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Here for sold out item.
http://www.meteor.com.hk/shop/en/lens-for-portrait-50mm-90mm/2323-summicron-50mmf2-rigid-black.html
Very good looking lens.
http://www.meteor.com.hk/shop/en/lens-for-portrait-50mm-90mm/2323-summicron-50mmf2-rigid-black.html
Very good looking lens.
rfaspen
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That's still at least 1700 USD. I'm surprised even at that. It is Hong Kong -- prices seem higher there.
I agree its a neat lens. Could be a good (re)introduction to the joy of film photography with an M Leica....
KEVIN-XU 愛 forever
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meteor is a famous shop in Hongkong. His price normally on the higher end side since he is a dealer and has operation cost. But it's safe to say that, this particular lens may worth twice of the normal edition V3 summicron.
alex11235
Newbie
I have too many expensive hobbies already, lol. Soon as I figure out what's fair to ask the listing will be back up.
I sell to meteor all the time. Maybe they will want it. 🙂
james.liam
Well-known
Very strange.
Has the knurled focusing ring of the Rigid, but the lettering/font of type III. The serial number is in the first batch of the Summicron successor to the Rigid (1968).
Leica is notorious for serial numbers that are out of place. You might consider writing to Leica and ask them. If it is indeed a black Rigid, it may be worth ~$7,000-10,000. I remember reading somewhere that there were prototypes where the optical cell of the Rigid was placed into the body of the v.III. Perhaps the opposite was true too.
The Wiki referenced above states that the knurled ring and Dual Range v.II were still available after the introduction of v.III; not that the v.III came that way. Don't short-sell yourself and first confirm exactly what you have. If it's some strange variant, you might net more if it goes to auction,
Has the knurled focusing ring of the Rigid, but the lettering/font of type III. The serial number is in the first batch of the Summicron successor to the Rigid (1968).
Leica is notorious for serial numbers that are out of place. You might consider writing to Leica and ask them. If it is indeed a black Rigid, it may be worth ~$7,000-10,000. I remember reading somewhere that there were prototypes where the optical cell of the Rigid was placed into the body of the v.III. Perhaps the opposite was true too.
The Wiki referenced above states that the knurled ring and Dual Range v.II were still available after the introduction of v.III; not that the v.III came that way. Don't short-sell yourself and first confirm exactly what you have. If it's some strange variant, you might net more if it goes to auction,
alex11235
Newbie
I shot them an email at technicalinfo@leicacamerausa.com with the pictures. Guess I'll wait and see? I appreciate the help here.
Contarama
Well-known
Well how many great uncles do you have that left you some Leica? That being said one of the best camera systems I ever bought and it was a bargain came from a similar situation so kudos to you for giving it up to hopefully be used as it should.
bucs
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Contact well known Leica dealers like Meteor (online and there a few on instagram as well) and maybe you'll be offered better selling prices. Make sure to point out you have an uncommon lens and there is a chance you'll get a premium over v3 Summicron market prices.
It appears selling here would not be advisable given the level of speculation in this thread lol. For the lens at least.
kiemchacsu
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put it on eBay auction with clear descriptions
the market will tell how much it would go
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Definitely a so-called "transitional" v3; I'd stay it's a v2.5 😉
Have it CLA'd, give an exact description in the auction, watch the bidding wars go full-steam. Maybe not right away, have a reserve of about USD $1,200, you should be fine.
Don't ask for less than $1,000 if it's in [very] good condition.
Have it CLA'd, give an exact description in the auction, watch the bidding wars go full-steam. Maybe not right away, have a reserve of about USD $1,200, you should be fine.
Don't ask for less than $1,000 if it's in [very] good condition.
steveyork
Well-known
With early serial numbers of any item, Leica was probably using left over parts. They did that with the MP and the film iso plate. The first batch had the old M6 plates. Anyway, that's my theory.
Erik van Straten
Veteran
The six element 1968 Summicron with scalloped focusing ring is made in 1.000 pieces.
Erik.
Leica Wiki:
2269251 2270250 Summicron f= 5 cm 1:2 (SKF-black) 1968 1000
Erik.
Leica Wiki:
2269251 2270250 Summicron f= 5 cm 1:2 (SKF-black) 1968 1000
alex11235
Newbie
From Leica directly:
Hello,
thanks for this interesting inquiry about this historical lens. It seems to me that this lens in question was assemble out of two different lenses, never saw this SUMMICRON-M 2/50 in that conditions. We have to investigate this matter carefully here in our archive, but this will take some time. I have forwarded your mail to our archive, maybe they have closer details about this lens in their records. As soon as I have the correct details I’ll come back to you. May I ask for your patience. Have a nice day
Hello,
thanks for this interesting inquiry about this historical lens. It seems to me that this lens in question was assemble out of two different lenses, never saw this SUMMICRON-M 2/50 in that conditions. We have to investigate this matter carefully here in our archive, but this will take some time. I have forwarded your mail to our archive, maybe they have closer details about this lens in their records. As soon as I have the correct details I’ll come back to you. May I ask for your patience. Have a nice day
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