wotalegend
Well-known
According to Tom A. film is made in sheets & then cut to different sizes. So as I understand both 120 & 135 would be the same formulation.
AFAIK the only Neopan which has been discontinued is Neopan 400 in 120 size only. The offending chemical was an anti-static in the backing paper used on 120 films, not in the film base itself. Strangely, they have not discontinued Acros 100 in 120 size (sssh, don't tell them). It must use a different chemical in its backing paper, in which case you have to wonder why they didn't just switch tne Neopan 400 backing paper to the same formulation. What is most infuriating is that the company itself, through its lack of communication, doesn't seem to give a rat's tossbag about its end customers.
My guess is that the rumour on flickr is just that. In following this and other photography forums (fora?) over the years I have found that most false and unfounded rumours claim to have come from a company rep.
btgc
Veteran
I hope selling (how some nasty tongues say - dumping) 35mm Neopan as Legacy Pro DOES NOT mean pre-discontinuation activities to free up space.
kzphoto
Well-known
I haven't been able to find a decent 800 speed C-41 film in my town for a few months now. I've resorted to shooting XTRA 400 and push processing. It gets the job done, but it's a bit rough. Rate it at 640!
Really sorry to see Pro 800Z go, as that has been a favorite in 220 size. Surprisingly low grain even in 135 size... I typically set the meter to 500 for this film. One of the features of the 160/400/800 Pro line is the 4th color layer, which I think helps it deal gracefully with mixed lighting. I don't know if Superia has that 4th layer...
Chris101
summicronia
Keith, I've been buried in a magazine project for the last month that is thankfully finished. I've exchanged my Wacom tablet for a camera again!
Welcome back Pick! The place has been eerily too quiet, and kumbaya is getting old.
Jim Smith
Member
Discontinued film at Freestyle
Discontinued film at Freestyle
I received an order from Freestyle yesterday and the usual sheet listing discontinued items was enclosed. All the varieties of LegacyPro were on this list. Could this be a sign that Fuji is getting ready to pull the plug on Acros and Neopan 400 in 35mm?:
Discontinued film at Freestyle
I received an order from Freestyle yesterday and the usual sheet listing discontinued items was enclosed. All the varieties of LegacyPro were on this list. Could this be a sign that Fuji is getting ready to pull the plug on Acros and Neopan 400 in 35mm?:
ItsReallyDarren
That's really me
I received an order from Freestyle yesterday and the usual sheet listing discontinued items was enclosed. All the varieties of LegacyPro were on this list. Could this be a sign that Fuji is getting ready to pull the plug on Acros and Neopan 400 in 35mm?:
Are you sure it was the discontinued list and not the "hot deals" list?
Bob Michaels
nobody special
Trust me, I heard it direct from Chicken Little "the sky is falling, the sky is falling"
I recently bought another 100 rolls of Legacy Pro (35mm Neopan 400) from Freestyle and 20 rolls of 120 Neopan 400 from B&H. If Fuji does eventually stop making Neopan 400, I can shoot HP5. If Iflord stops making HP5, I can shoot Tri-X. If Kodak stops making Tri-X, I guess I can shoot digital. But I will probably be dead by then anyway.
So I am still sleeping soundly at night.
I recently bought another 100 rolls of Legacy Pro (35mm Neopan 400) from Freestyle and 20 rolls of 120 Neopan 400 from B&H. If Fuji does eventually stop making Neopan 400, I can shoot HP5. If Iflord stops making HP5, I can shoot Tri-X. If Kodak stops making Tri-X, I guess I can shoot digital. But I will probably be dead by then anyway.
So I am still sleeping soundly at night.
robklurfield
eclipse
the voice of reason speaks. amen.
Trust me, I heard it direct from Chicken Little "the sky is falling, the sky is falling"
I recently bought another 100 rolls of Legacy Pro (35mm Neopan 400) from Freestyle and 20 rolls of 120 Neopan 400 from B&H. If Fuji does eventually stop making Neopan 400, I can shoot HP5. If Iflord stops making HP5, I can shoot Tri-X. If Kodak stops making Tri-X, I guess I can shoot digital. But I will probably be dead by then anyway.
So I am still sleeping soundly at night.
amateriat
We're all light!
Hey, Bob, that's my strategy!Trust me, I heard it direct from Chicken Little "the sky is falling, the sky is falling"
I recently bought another 100 rolls of Legacy Pro (35mm Neopan 400) from Freestyle and 20 rolls of 120 Neopan 400 from B&H. If Fuji does eventually stop making Neopan 400, I can shoot HP5. If Iflord stops making HP5, I can shoot Tri-X. If Kodak stops making Tri-X, I guess I can shoot digital. But I will probably be dead by then anyway.
So I am still sleeping soundly at night.
Lately, I've been shooting a lot more Kodak chromogenic film than Ilford XP-2, because (1) it's a buck cheaper per roll, and (2) it's made in my home state.
I say: by the time this film, Tri-X, HP-5, and damn near everything else of a film-based nature has disappeared, Nikon, Hasselblad, Epson, Canon (well, maybe not Canon, they're too big, but so was Lehman Bros.) et al will have either vaporized or been absorbed into some huge conglomerate and concentrating on cheap, 3-D flat screens for display of images indoors, rendering 2-D reflective prints moribund.
(Okay, it probably won't be that bad. I had a lousy dream last night that was a photographer's version of Max Headroom.)
- Barrett
wotalegend
Well-known
I received an order from Freestyle yesterday and the usual sheet listing discontinued items was enclosed. All the varieties of LegacyPro were on this list. Could this be a sign that Fuji is getting ready to pull the plug on Acros and Neopan 400 in 35mm?:
I just ordered some Legacy Pro (both speeds) today and there were no little red notes on the web site about low stocks or impending discontinuation. I also wanted to order some Neopan 400 in 120 before it's all gone, but it appears that I am too late because it has disappeared from the web site. So I ordered some Tri-X which seems to be the most popular choice of "substitute". Hopefully Kodak has more commitment to film shooters than Fujifilm appears to have.
shyoon
Well-known
B&H still have some Neopan 400 in 120 in stock. I just ordered 25 rolls from them today.
wotalegend
Well-known
B&H still have some Neopan 400 in 120 in stock. I just ordered 25 rolls from them today.
Thanks for the advice, but I would have to place a fairly significant order to spread the high shipping cost. Having just placed a $200+ order with Freestyle I can't afford to place another straight away with B&H. However next time I will check out both suppliers before finalising the order.
Jim Smith
Member
Status of Legacy Pro
Status of Legacy Pro
At the top of the list it says "Clearance Items" followed by: "The following items are discontinued and will no longer be available at Freestyle once sold out. Please note that quantities are limited to stock on hand."
Status of Legacy Pro
Are you sure it was the discontinued list and not the "hot deals" list?
At the top of the list it says "Clearance Items" followed by: "The following items are discontinued and will no longer be available at Freestyle once sold out. Please note that quantities are limited to stock on hand."
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
I wouldn't run right out and buy a bunch in 120 unless you already have established your habits and technique with it. But not if you always meant to get around to trying it. Hello 120 tri-X; Hello 120 T-Max; (etc.) Time to move on (dot org).
wotalegend
Well-known
At the top of the list it says "Clearance Items" followed by: "The following items are discontinued and will no longer be available at Freestyle once sold out. Please note that quantities are limited to stock on hand."
I received my Freestyle order today, which included the same "clearance items" sheet. I can verify that all variations of Legacy Pro film are included on the list. But there is still nothing on Freestyle's web site about discontinuation or limited stocks. They must have a heap of it in stock, so make the most of it while you can. I wish I could afford to put in another order straight away. :bang:
shimokita
白黒
+1 for Fujifilm PRO800Z and please take a look at the following...
Fujifilm re-think Pro 800Z withdrawal
22 July 2009
http://www.newsfeeduk.com/fujipro/22.07.2009.shtml
"Due to demand from its customers, Fujifilm Professional has decided to continue production of Fujicolor Pro 800Z. It was announced recently that the company was to discontinue the film from September 2009. ... "
The full article can also be found as follows:
http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/professional/home.html
select >> "Press" and follow to the above link and article...
Even though PRO800Z (which is very nice...) is not on their website, it was available in the cooler at Yodobashi this week. Enjoy...
Casey
Fujifilm re-think Pro 800Z withdrawal
22 July 2009
http://www.newsfeeduk.com/fujipro/22.07.2009.shtml
"Due to demand from its customers, Fujifilm Professional has decided to continue production of Fujicolor Pro 800Z. It was announced recently that the company was to discontinue the film from September 2009. ... "
The full article can also be found as follows:
http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/professional/home.html
select >> "Press" and follow to the above link and article...
Even though PRO800Z (which is very nice...) is not on their website, it was available in the cooler at Yodobashi this week. Enjoy...
Casey
"Due to demand from its customers, Fujifilm Professional has decided to continue production of Fujicolor Pro 800Z. It was announced recently that the company was to discontinue the film from September 2009. ... "
Well, I'm delighted -- if this includes 120/220, as I find that film so very useful (I set the meter to EI 500) with MF cameras having f/4 lenses and getting into evening or interiors.
Well, I'm delighted -- if this includes 120/220, as I find that film so very useful (I set the meter to EI 500) with MF cameras having f/4 lenses and getting into evening or interiors.
shimokita
白黒
The website does show PRO800Z as currently available in 35mm, 120, and 220 so on my next visit I have to take a look in the 120, 220 section of the cooler to see if it's actually there or not... As mentioned in my previous post, 35mm was available at Yodobashi (Tokyo) the last time I looked.
http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/professional/films/pdfs/professionalrange.pdf
Anyone ever use PRO400H? I have a test roll in the camera now but any comments would be appreciated.
Casey
http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/professional/films/pdfs/professionalrange.pdf
Anyone ever use PRO400H? I have a test roll in the camera now but any comments would be appreciated.
Casey
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Oh, yes; Pro 400H is my usual choice for 35mm, and in MF if I know the light will be reasonably good. For that matter I like 160S as well especially in 35mm.
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