shimokita
白黒
I never check my office email when not in the office... staff who try to push the problem up the line lean to take responsibility, management understand (and respect) the schedule... and lunch time is for lunch... No smart phone, no internet when moving from A-to-B (or when out with a camera). When working it's 150%. Every problem doesn't need my personal touch and it's down right amazing what gets resolved overnight.
The secret to a good day at the office is arrive refreshed and start a little early.
The secret to a good day at the office is arrive refreshed and start a little early.
Pfreddee
Well-known
It depends...
With best regards.
Pfreddee(Stephen)
With best regards.
Pfreddee(Stephen)
farlymac
PF McFarland
I'm reminded how technology has made its way into my life every time I get in my vehicle, and put it in reverse. That's when the little screen comes to life with a view of the area behind, and an overlay of what way my vehicle is pointed, and how turning the steering will affect the direction it will go.
Forty-seven years ago I used to drive a nuclear powered fast attack submarine for a living. In front of the handling stations (rudder and sail planes on the right, and stern planes on the left) was a display that showed a representation of where the submarine was in relation to where it was headed, and how close to requested depth it was. It was top secret stuff at the time, but now I have basically the same system in my personal vehicle. Only going in reverse.
Not once when I was sitting there trying to keep the display from showing me off course, or out of the depth zone did I think this should be in a car. It actually repeated what we used to always do by reading the numbers off a series of gauges, which was to me less stressful. But the diving officer, and officer of the deck could see what was going on with just a glance, as the gauges were harder to read from the distance they would normally be from the control stand. So I learned to live with it.
Just like I'm getting used to using the rear view camera in my vehicle. I don't like it, but because of the way the car is designed, it's much like being in that sub again, as it is very hard to see what is happening when going in reverse.
So sometimes technology is helpful, but it is nice to get away from it. I got a cheap, no-contract smart phone just so I could have a weather app, and access my Flickr account on the go. I never made or took calls on it. I eliminated any app that I had no use for, such as all the social media ones, games, Amazon, YouTube, and anything that was basically designed just to let the Great Google know where you were, and what you were doing. I taped over the rear facing camera until I found out it interfered with the touch screen. I shut it off every night, and wouldn't turn it on again until I was ready to leave the abode.
And even though it was very handy for what I did use it for, it was still to me a burden to have it around, as every day someone would call its number which I had never given out, and I had to cancel the call just to get the thing to stop ringing. It was hard to handle with its slick shell, so I put a rubber cover on it, and then it wouldn't go in my phone holster, so I had to find a pocket for it to ride in, which meant rearranging the stuff I carried all the time.
And through all that, I still had my old flip-phone for making and taking calls on. So what was the use? The only things that I wanted to do with it were the very things I can't do with the flip-phone: weather, maps, Flickr, reading e-mails, and the photography apps I was planning on installing. But a system update caused it to only let the non-native apps (ones that I installed) work when the phone had a WiFi connection. It was coming up on its service renewal date, so I just let it die. I miss it every so often, like when I want to know how soon it's going to start raining, or want to show someone the photos I've taken. But it's good riddance if you ask me.
No, Akiva, you are not a Luddite. You're like me, trying to find my way through all this wireless mess to find a clearer picture of how things should be. What to embrace, and what to ignore are the main themes of my life anymore. I don't even watch much TV, as the shows are just rehashed older versions, or multiple copies of the same thing (how many NCIS shows does CBS need?). And the commercialism of stupidity in shows like Big Brother just shows how crass the networks are.
So hang in there my brother, and you'll make it through.
PF
Forty-seven years ago I used to drive a nuclear powered fast attack submarine for a living. In front of the handling stations (rudder and sail planes on the right, and stern planes on the left) was a display that showed a representation of where the submarine was in relation to where it was headed, and how close to requested depth it was. It was top secret stuff at the time, but now I have basically the same system in my personal vehicle. Only going in reverse.
Not once when I was sitting there trying to keep the display from showing me off course, or out of the depth zone did I think this should be in a car. It actually repeated what we used to always do by reading the numbers off a series of gauges, which was to me less stressful. But the diving officer, and officer of the deck could see what was going on with just a glance, as the gauges were harder to read from the distance they would normally be from the control stand. So I learned to live with it.
Just like I'm getting used to using the rear view camera in my vehicle. I don't like it, but because of the way the car is designed, it's much like being in that sub again, as it is very hard to see what is happening when going in reverse.
So sometimes technology is helpful, but it is nice to get away from it. I got a cheap, no-contract smart phone just so I could have a weather app, and access my Flickr account on the go. I never made or took calls on it. I eliminated any app that I had no use for, such as all the social media ones, games, Amazon, YouTube, and anything that was basically designed just to let the Great Google know where you were, and what you were doing. I taped over the rear facing camera until I found out it interfered with the touch screen. I shut it off every night, and wouldn't turn it on again until I was ready to leave the abode.
And even though it was very handy for what I did use it for, it was still to me a burden to have it around, as every day someone would call its number which I had never given out, and I had to cancel the call just to get the thing to stop ringing. It was hard to handle with its slick shell, so I put a rubber cover on it, and then it wouldn't go in my phone holster, so I had to find a pocket for it to ride in, which meant rearranging the stuff I carried all the time.
And through all that, I still had my old flip-phone for making and taking calls on. So what was the use? The only things that I wanted to do with it were the very things I can't do with the flip-phone: weather, maps, Flickr, reading e-mails, and the photography apps I was planning on installing. But a system update caused it to only let the non-native apps (ones that I installed) work when the phone had a WiFi connection. It was coming up on its service renewal date, so I just let it die. I miss it every so often, like when I want to know how soon it's going to start raining, or want to show someone the photos I've taken. But it's good riddance if you ask me.
No, Akiva, you are not a Luddite. You're like me, trying to find my way through all this wireless mess to find a clearer picture of how things should be. What to embrace, and what to ignore are the main themes of my life anymore. I don't even watch much TV, as the shows are just rehashed older versions, or multiple copies of the same thing (how many NCIS shows does CBS need?). And the commercialism of stupidity in shows like Big Brother just shows how crass the networks are.
So hang in there my brother, and you'll make it through.
PF
RichC
Well-known
I think the RFF demographic is showing its age and inflexibility. OK, I know not that all older people are like that...!
Ignoring or refusing today's communications technology is simply cutting off your nose to spite you face, like King Canute rebuking the incoming tide.
If you have a problem with technology, you're using it wrongly... Social media, digital communication, smartphones, tailored content, online collaboration, the IoT, smart cities, AI, personal tracking: these things put YOU in control, placing power and information into your hands that our ancestors could only dream of.
Technology is changing faster, becoming more and more integrated in our lives, and less and less able to be ignored. Living "off the grid" or being a "Luddite" will soon no longer be quaint eccentricities but serious disabling impediments to taking part in our society.
Millennials embrace today's technology, and are agile - adopting and discarding technologies continuously. They use technology to enrich their lives, able to instantly access people and information. But they are in the driving seat: they control what personal information is publicly and privately accessible and to whom, they decide if and when to respond to email and social media. In contrast, many Baby Boomers seem to consider being in contact 24/7 an intrusion rather than empowering, that they MUST respond ASAP for some reason... putting off or ignoring email or social media is not like ignoring a letter or phone call!)
Get a (digital) life...!
Ignoring or refusing today's communications technology is simply cutting off your nose to spite you face, like King Canute rebuking the incoming tide.
If you have a problem with technology, you're using it wrongly... Social media, digital communication, smartphones, tailored content, online collaboration, the IoT, smart cities, AI, personal tracking: these things put YOU in control, placing power and information into your hands that our ancestors could only dream of.
Technology is changing faster, becoming more and more integrated in our lives, and less and less able to be ignored. Living "off the grid" or being a "Luddite" will soon no longer be quaint eccentricities but serious disabling impediments to taking part in our society.
Millennials embrace today's technology, and are agile - adopting and discarding technologies continuously. They use technology to enrich their lives, able to instantly access people and information. But they are in the driving seat: they control what personal information is publicly and privately accessible and to whom, they decide if and when to respond to email and social media. In contrast, many Baby Boomers seem to consider being in contact 24/7 an intrusion rather than empowering, that they MUST respond ASAP for some reason... putting off or ignoring email or social media is not like ignoring a letter or phone call!)
Get a (digital) life...!
retinax
Well-known
Hehe, my impression is that most millennials I know (I am one myself) do see the negative sides, while embracing it anyway to some degree. And most of us are not naive enough to believe we're in the driving seat with regard to what information we give away. Sure, those of us who still use Facebook usually are familiar with its privacy settings, but aware that most things we do online or leave traces that are at least as useful as our contents to advertisers as well as actors with (even) more sinister intentions.
In general, of course technology (I'm not sure if it were easier to discuss if we were more specific, social media? Mobile internet access?) is in the first place just stuff that people make and other people use. But it would be a mistake to think it's neutral and one can make of it whatever one wants to. Just like even the simplest tool, with it come new modes of interaction and new and old power relations between tool and human, raw material provider and capitalist and worker and different users. I should be benevolent to the user in some ways but it is made for profit, so be sure that when in doubt, the benefit of those who make it is put before that of the user. So it's not neutral from the beginning. Yes it is something one can use it to one's benefit, but it's a constant struggle to even notice the negative impacts and keep them at bay, and in the end also a political struggle about who can do what with these powerful tools.
In general, of course technology (I'm not sure if it were easier to discuss if we were more specific, social media? Mobile internet access?) is in the first place just stuff that people make and other people use. But it would be a mistake to think it's neutral and one can make of it whatever one wants to. Just like even the simplest tool, with it come new modes of interaction and new and old power relations between tool and human, raw material provider and capitalist and worker and different users. I should be benevolent to the user in some ways but it is made for profit, so be sure that when in doubt, the benefit of those who make it is put before that of the user. So it's not neutral from the beginning. Yes it is something one can use it to one's benefit, but it's a constant struggle to even notice the negative impacts and keep them at bay, and in the end also a political struggle about who can do what with these powerful tools.
JeffS7444
Well-known
Caffeine will do that to you sometimes.
But when I want to sleep, I create more of a lo-tech space for myself: DSL modem and wifi get shut off, phone goes into Do Not Disturb mode (and gets packed away beyond arm's reach). I don't have too many "smart" type devices in general: Just add candles and cake and I think it'd be very "hygge".
Emile de Leon
Well-known
Technology..allowed you to post this thread...lol..
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
How many IoT realized projects you know?
I was studying it last summer and didn't find many.
Last year report on millenials shows their control of privacy is done much easier way.
Basicly millenials have ditched the social media. They might work for it, but not participating.
Amazon, Google, Disney new streaming technologies are managed and run by technical stuff which represent this forum participants age.
If you look at the age of those who implements digital technologies in our lives, including standartization, you are not going to find much millennials.
Using is one thing, making it availiblefirst is diffrent.
Agile is next to twenty years old, btw. In IT it is old.
Bill Clark
Veteran
I use technology to help me. Stock buy and sell each order is $4.99 on E-Trade no matter number of shares.
I’m not afraid of it except when I look at my test results from my annual. So far so good. Much easier getting a flu shot today compared when I was getting ready (military) to go overseas, two airguns, one for each arm 18 shots all at once! I didn’t lose my shot card or I’d have to get them all over. Now records on internet server.
I’m not afraid of it except when I look at my test results from my annual. So far so good. Much easier getting a flu shot today compared when I was getting ready (military) to go overseas, two airguns, one for each arm 18 shots all at once! I didn’t lose my shot card or I’d have to get them all over. Now records on internet server.
olifaunt
Well-known
I use email, the Web, texting and What's App. No longer can sleep at night. Mind is always working. iPhones, Ipad and laptop. Constant distractions and by touch screen on my car. It would probably kill me to start up with all these other anti sanity social media sites.Am I a Luddite? Confess up. Is this stuff killing us?
You're not a Luddite since you are using all this by choice. But perhaps too much if it's interfering with your sleep.
Guidelines I follow are:
- Device screens and sounds turned off when I go to bed. If they have blinking notification lights, I put something on top of them or have them in another room.
- Make sure devices are set to night-light conditions after sunset so the blue screen exposure before bed doesn't interfere with sleep
- I don't take my phone with me around the house. I park it and occasionally check it.
- No phone with me around town. I only take it with me if I go on the highway in case of emergency, or somewhere I need directions.
- Email gets checked weekday mornings. Including any responses, it usually takes less than ten minutes. Normally not even 2 minutes.
- I only check about 3 websites daily. No online news. I read the physical paper in the morning coffee shop and that's more than enough.
- No social networks except Flickr, which is basically the only benign one IMHO. Well, and a couple of forums like this one, because it is civil. No uncivil ones, life is too short.
- Texting and Whatsapp, I take 5 minutes 3 times a day for that. More than enough.
chipgreenberg
Well-known
Millennials are not in control. Facebook, Google et al are in control. Millennials either think they are in control, or don't know or care about the privacy they are giving up.
Unless you take steps otherwise , and few do, everything you do on the internet is tracked and cataloged. You smartfone's GPS pings your location to the tower. Alexa waits for you to summon her listening to every word.
There are some great benefits with all this to me, the consumer. Some of it is a double edge sword.
While I prefer doing photography with 60 year old analog cameras, I have no problem with tech. I own a small tech company and use high level tech every day. But I don't need a "smart" refrigerator seeing I'm low on milk and having Alexa order it
If you have a problem with technology, you're using it wrongly... Social media, digital communication, smartphones, tailored content, online collaboration, the IoT, smart cities, AI, personal tracking: these things put YOU in control, placing power and information into your hands that our ancestors could only dream of.
Millennials embrace today's technology, and are agile - adopting and discarding technologies continuously. They use technology to enrich their lives, able to instantly access people and information. But they are in the driving seat: they control what personal information is publicly and privately accessible and to whom, they decide if and when to respond to email and social media. In contrast, many Baby Boomers seem to consider being in contact 24/7 an intrusion rather than empowering, that they MUST respond ASAP for some reason... putting off or ignoring email or social media is not like ignoring a letter or phone call!)
Get a (digital) life...![/QUOTE]
Unless you take steps otherwise , and few do, everything you do on the internet is tracked and cataloged. You smartfone's GPS pings your location to the tower. Alexa waits for you to summon her listening to every word.
There are some great benefits with all this to me, the consumer. Some of it is a double edge sword.
While I prefer doing photography with 60 year old analog cameras, I have no problem with tech. I own a small tech company and use high level tech every day. But I don't need a "smart" refrigerator seeing I'm low on milk and having Alexa order it
If you have a problem with technology, you're using it wrongly... Social media, digital communication, smartphones, tailored content, online collaboration, the IoT, smart cities, AI, personal tracking: these things put YOU in control, placing power and information into your hands that our ancestors could only dream of.
Millennials embrace today's technology, and are agile - adopting and discarding technologies continuously. They use technology to enrich their lives, able to instantly access people and information. But they are in the driving seat: they control what personal information is publicly and privately accessible and to whom, they decide if and when to respond to email and social media. In contrast, many Baby Boomers seem to consider being in contact 24/7 an intrusion rather than empowering, that they MUST respond ASAP for some reason... putting off or ignoring email or social media is not like ignoring a letter or phone call!)
Get a (digital) life...![/QUOTE]
All my email and web browsing is done on a desktop, not iPhone which is mainly a *phone* ! So it's not distracting, generally, but useful in the few things for which I use it. Technology today is marvelous and enhances the quality of life if you can work it right.
They say for good sleep not to end the day viewing screens of any sort. Wind down, relax, put aside worries and conflicts. Alcohol nitecap no, warm milk yes.
I used to have an "active sleep" problem where my dreaming would get out of hand physically, with broken bones and scars. I learned to bend my mind to pleasant thoughts as I settle into bed, thinking of a favorite hobby activity, a cycling ride (which way to go, imagine the terrain), or contemplate a favored tree.
I also put my iPhone under the pillow running "SleepTracker" app, which uses the accelerometer to sense movement and sleep quality. Also can track exercise.
Out to Lunch
Ventor
In today's internet market I believe it's not great. Too many companies using business models that offer 'free' services while making you their product.
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
Good point.
Good point.
We wouldn't have the world wide coverage that we enjoy on this forum with out technology.
Good point.
We wouldn't have the world wide coverage that we enjoy on this forum with out technology.
farlymac
PF McFarland
Technology is great when it works, or is being used for good. It's when people start to think they can't live without it, and have their faces buried in their phones 24/7 that things go wrong. Like getting run over because you walked out into traffic while trying to keep up with your Twitter account. Or running someone over because you were keeping up with your Twitter account. I see one of my neighbors "walking" the dog every day, and he has no idea what is going on around him because he's concentrating on his phone, and his poor dog doesn't get the type of exercise he needs.
Letting technology be the guiding force in your life is just wrong, because when it all goes away, what do you do? Folks have their whole life wrapped up in their phones, so if it gets lost, broken, or stolen they might go into shock. There goes all their photos, banking information, contacts, everything that might be of importance (unless they had it all backed up somewhere).
I have no problem with using technology (been using computers since 1978), but I also know one needs a back-up plan. It's why I still have a land-line phone. When we lost power for eight days, I was one of three tenants in our apartment community that had phone service. Everyone else had cells phones they couldn't get charged, or home phones running off their now dead cable router, like my 90 year old neighbor.
Yeah, all of today's modern conveniences are nice, but one needs to keep it all in perspective, and not sell your soul to the corporations trying to make money on your life.
PF
Letting technology be the guiding force in your life is just wrong, because when it all goes away, what do you do? Folks have their whole life wrapped up in their phones, so if it gets lost, broken, or stolen they might go into shock. There goes all their photos, banking information, contacts, everything that might be of importance (unless they had it all backed up somewhere).
I have no problem with using technology (been using computers since 1978), but I also know one needs a back-up plan. It's why I still have a land-line phone. When we lost power for eight days, I was one of three tenants in our apartment community that had phone service. Everyone else had cells phones they couldn't get charged, or home phones running off their now dead cable router, like my 90 year old neighbor.
Yeah, all of today's modern conveniences are nice, but one needs to keep it all in perspective, and not sell your soul to the corporations trying to make money on your life.
PF
Ambro51
Collector/Photographer
I’m still trying to figure out how musicians get inside the radio.
emraphoto
Veteran
It also offers a lot of terrible things that SHOULD be hard to ignore. This depends on where you live though.
Benjamin Marks
Veteran
I work for myself, so phone-tech lets me be away from my home office doing other things during slow times. My clients expect me to be reasonably available, and I am. But I am not a power user on the phone. So: good news, bad news. The good news is that for the five or six functions I use it for (phone,e-mail, maps, calulator, lists, news aggregator, one or two novels) the phone helps. Bad news is you have to set some limits, or be ruled by the device. So:
I only IM with family.
I don't use the phone for social media.
Phone is off/in another room at night.
No phones at meals.
No social media on phone.
No music, movies, streaming, retail, browsing etc. on the phone.
No photography with the phone.
These "rules" sort of emerged organically from how I use the dingus . . . and work involves sitting at a desk and staring at a screen. I do too much of that already.
I only IM with family.
I don't use the phone for social media.
Phone is off/in another room at night.
No phones at meals.
No social media on phone.
No music, movies, streaming, retail, browsing etc. on the phone.
No photography with the phone.
These "rules" sort of emerged organically from how I use the dingus . . . and work involves sitting at a desk and staring at a screen. I do too much of that already.
ChrisPlatt
Thread Killer
I chose a flip-phone and had text and The Web turned off by the provider.
I turn it on when I leave for work and off when I get home.
If it rings long enough my home phone - not in the bedroom - will wake me in an emergency.
All my Web browsing is done at home on a desktop or a laptop when traveling.
I don't stream or download audio or video, however I occasionally watch a video of a musical performance.
I recently purchased an Internet radio with which I plan to listen to radio broadcasts from faraway places.
I make some online purchases but I pay all my monthly recurring bills by letter mail using stamps.
I have been participating in Internet forums since Usenet but have never joined any social media sites.
My car is a 2003 model, all analog with no touch screen.
It does have multiple airbags, ABS and traction control, as well as a CD player.
Some of the "must-have" features in new cars today make me laugh.
I have yet to find a digital camera that I like using.
As others have stated we are all users of technology.
Some of us merely prefer older, time-tested forms.
Chris
I turn it on when I leave for work and off when I get home.
If it rings long enough my home phone - not in the bedroom - will wake me in an emergency.
All my Web browsing is done at home on a desktop or a laptop when traveling.
I don't stream or download audio or video, however I occasionally watch a video of a musical performance.
I recently purchased an Internet radio with which I plan to listen to radio broadcasts from faraway places.
I make some online purchases but I pay all my monthly recurring bills by letter mail using stamps.
I have been participating in Internet forums since Usenet but have never joined any social media sites.
My car is a 2003 model, all analog with no touch screen.
It does have multiple airbags, ABS and traction control, as well as a CD player.
Some of the "must-have" features in new cars today make me laugh.
I have yet to find a digital camera that I like using.
As others have stated we are all users of technology.
Some of us merely prefer older, time-tested forms.
Chris
Dogman
Veteran
My car is a 2014 model (bought used two years ago) and it came with two owner's manuals. The thin one is for the standard automobile features that basically tells you you can't fix any of them so don't try. The thicker one is for the entertainment/navigation system. I figured out how to play music using Bluetooth from my iPhone but I still can't use the GPS very well. After a trip to the car wash sometimes settings have gotten changed on some features because the guys wiping down the interior inadvertently push buttons. My wife hates the car and refuses to drive it most of the time in preference to her beat up 1998 Tahoe. I like the car but I hate having to use the manuals to reset something that I or the carwash guys have accidentally changed.
My iMac, iPhone and iPad get automatic updates from Apple. Sometimes these updates change settings and it's annoying to have to muddle through the settings while doing a Google search to figure out how to get back to where I was before. I like my iPhone and iPad but I wish Apple didn't think they knew more about how I use them than I do. The Mac seems more immune to this problem.
My cameras are all digital and mostly of the same brand. I have them all set up the same way. I've also turned off or don't use most of the features they offer because that's how I like to do my picture-taking. Every time I do a firmware update I keep my fingers crossed something doesn't get screwed up. Thus far all is well. Actually, the cameras are the most simple devices I use. I very much like them.
I read a few websites daily. I am a member of this forum and one other. I do not use Facebook, Instagram, Flickr, Twitter or any other social media website. I do a brief scan of the news on the Internet but I refuse to even try to stay abreast of current events. I could care less about the Kardashians, the politicians or the media darlings and I'm usually appalled at the lack of knowledge and near illiteracy of most newscasters on television. I use weather apps, I buy stuff from Amazon, B&H, iTunes and a few other online retailers. I guess Google knows more about me than it should but it doesn't bother me too much. I get more annoyed at the intrusions of robo-calls, Mormon missionaries and Jehovah's Witnesses than targeted ads on websites.
Sometimes technology is annoying. But, like most things in life, I can muddle through it and come out unscarred.
My iMac, iPhone and iPad get automatic updates from Apple. Sometimes these updates change settings and it's annoying to have to muddle through the settings while doing a Google search to figure out how to get back to where I was before. I like my iPhone and iPad but I wish Apple didn't think they knew more about how I use them than I do. The Mac seems more immune to this problem.
My cameras are all digital and mostly of the same brand. I have them all set up the same way. I've also turned off or don't use most of the features they offer because that's how I like to do my picture-taking. Every time I do a firmware update I keep my fingers crossed something doesn't get screwed up. Thus far all is well. Actually, the cameras are the most simple devices I use. I very much like them.
I read a few websites daily. I am a member of this forum and one other. I do not use Facebook, Instagram, Flickr, Twitter or any other social media website. I do a brief scan of the news on the Internet but I refuse to even try to stay abreast of current events. I could care less about the Kardashians, the politicians or the media darlings and I'm usually appalled at the lack of knowledge and near illiteracy of most newscasters on television. I use weather apps, I buy stuff from Amazon, B&H, iTunes and a few other online retailers. I guess Google knows more about me than it should but it doesn't bother me too much. I get more annoyed at the intrusions of robo-calls, Mormon missionaries and Jehovah's Witnesses than targeted ads on websites.
Sometimes technology is annoying. But, like most things in life, I can muddle through it and come out unscarred.