is the f1.1 worth it?

cmogi10 said:
I am pretty sure the amount of DOF is directly related to sensor (negative) size. That is why itty bitty sensored point and shoot shots are usually obvious because of the extra DOF.
Click to expand...

Maybe I'm missing something, but small sensors are usually matched with very short focal length lenses, and this is why you get a huge DOF. I am not sure but if you use the same lens, changing the sensor size/ film format won't have any impact on the real DOF.
Now, the confusion circle for small/medium/large format is different because you are supposed to get pretty different enlargement ratios, but the actual effect of the lens should remain the same.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong...
 
Start another DOF thread, people! The moderators have been known to close threads that veer off into DOF technical arguments. :)

I like arguing about DOF, but it should happen elsewhere, and not obscure the OP's question.
 
Last edited:
bizarrius said:
bump!
I went to the shop today (I'm saying the shop because there is only one shop that has M mount stuff) and as i was looking for a 50mm lens and what they have available here was the CV Nokton 50mm f1.1 looking at me with his sad eyes and huge glass.
So i bought him.
Ha! take that spontaneousness! Even if there is no such word.
Click to expand...

Hi Bizarrius,
I am sure that you did well, based on my experience. I own a summicron 50 (1969 formula) and a VC 50/1.1 . No doubt they are different and I use them in different circumstances, along with a nice Summarit 50 1.5.
The Nokton took me a while to understand, however now I think it is a great lesn and I am attached to it. From 1.4 it is razor sharp. Not as my Cron 1969, but again the cron 1969 has the highest performance of any 50 so far (including new leicas).
When I want some pronounced "tunnel effect", I use the Summarit 50 and old Summilux 35; when I need more publishable results, flat field of curvature, I use the Nokton at dusk, cron50 in the day, and summarit 35.
Again, it depends which combination film / digital / lens you are using, what are the conditions, and what result you want. Bear in mind, each element acts like a filter in the chain, hence a contrasty lens coupled with a contrasty lens and hasrsh conditions will give different results as stand-dev film, vintage lens, and misty weather...
To summarise, the nokton is not a noctilux 1.0, it does not have this dramatic fall of DoF; its character and smoothness in its rendering looks closer to the modern 0.95 leica (though obviously not in the same league). It is rather neutral even so at 1.1 it has a nice feel and picture imagery.
 
sanmich said:
Maybe I'm missing something, but small sensors are usually matched with very short focal length lenses, and this is why you get a huge DOF. I am not sure but if you use the same lens, changing the sensor size/ film format won't have any impact on the real DOF.
Now, the confusion circle for small/medium/large format is different because you are supposed to get pretty different enlargement ratios, but the actual effect of the lens should remain the same.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong...
Click to expand...

Yeah, you've hit on something with focal AND small apertures. I'm looking for a compact to travel with that will give some OOF background. Think I'll start a new thread about it!
 
sounds good

sounds good

Good stuff Michael.

sanmich said:
Maybe I'm missing something, but small sensors are usually matched with very short focal length lenses, and this is why you get a huge DOF. I am not sure but if you use the same lens, changing the sensor size/ film format won't have any impact on the real DOF.
Now, the confusion circle for small/medium/large format is different because you are supposed to get pretty different enlargement ratios, but the actual effect of the lens should remain the same.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong...
Click to expand...
 
I've idly thought that one of these on an M8 or M8.2 body that's had its RF tuned for it would be a heck of a "project" rig for DOF isolation shooting, not just low light work. Too bad I'm broke!

bizarrius, "Poor bird" is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Please keep them coming!
 
i look forward to getting another one in the not too distant future...it's very rare that i 'miss' a lens once sold, but this one is special.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom