Is the M10 a viable used buy now? Any problems to look out for?

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Used prices for an M10 here in the UK are now about £1,000 to £1,500 below the new price.

Are there any known reliability problems which would mean it is more sensible to buy new to benefit from warranty cover?

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Simon



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My personal preference has been over the years never to buy a new Leica.
This is especially applicable to digital Leica cameras to lower the loss of depreciation over the next few years.
 
raid said:
My personal preference has been over the years never to buy a new Leica.
This is especially applicable to digital Leica cameras to lower the loss of depreciation over the next few years.
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That does make sense if reliability is ok.

My M8, M8.2 and M9 all made at least one trip to Germany for warranty repair for various sensor problems. My MP240 is the first one that has been completely problem free.

I was just wondering whether all versions of the M10 have been similarly reliable.


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I’ve been using M-10 for more than a year now. So far so good. I still keep my M9 since it has been replaced with the newest CCD sensor. Compare with M9 it’s slimmer, lighter and much faster. I have to say that M10 is a big jump. It’s very reliable. And thanks god they get rid of the video function from M240. So no mic hole on the top. Plus that iso dial makes it the most classic digital M that Leica has ever made. I got it for $5200 in like new condition which is a very good deal at that time.
 
SimonPJ said:
Used prices for an M10 here in the UK are now about £1,000 to £1,500 below the new price.

Are there any known reliability problems which would mean it is more sensible to buy new to benefit from warranty cover?

Thanks,

Simon



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From what I have seen here in the USA, you should be able to get a used one for much more than 1500 pounds off.
M10 is $7300 here new. I have seen them for less than $5000 used.
 
What Kevin and Huss said above; around $5000-$5500 used in very clean condition from the USA. The SL is less costly.
 
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What Kevin and Huss said above; around $5000-$5500 used in very clean condition from the USA. The SL is less costly.
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Thanks Raid.

The UK used price is about the same: £4,000 to £4,500 - which is $5,000 to $5,600 at current exchange rates.

Price for a new M10 (not the M10-P) is now £5,500 - or $6,850


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Simon,
my M10 has any issue since I bought new early 2017.


Some reported ISO dial failure or field selection lever loose or small trouble with Visoflex 020, and each time, Leica sorted these out quickly.


M10 and M240 family are reliable digital Leica with no big flaws.
 
I’ve been shooting a heavily used one I got about a year and a half ago, with zero issues. Finally seems like a fully sorted digital M.
 
I bought a used M10 in UK from LCE. Looked new. I've had it for about 6 months. No problems at all.
 
Leica are rather brilliant in their release strategy. M10 was just compelling enough to buy new. Then they drop the models everyone wants (-P, -D, Safari). They’re double-dippin, hard. If you’re patient and don’t mind used, great deals are to be had on “old” tech.
 
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Leica are rather brilliant in their release strategy. M10 was just compelling enough to buy new. Then they drop the models everyone wants (-P, -D, Safari). They’re double-dippin, hard. If you’re patient and don’t mind used, great deals are to be had on “old” tech.
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What was seriously bogus was they removed features the M240 had like the leveling indicators (fantastic for landscape and architecture), then added it back in to the M10-P and pretended it was a great new feature.
 
Huss said:
What was seriously bogus was they removed features the M240 had like the leveling indicators (fantastic for landscape and architecture), then added it back in to the M10-P and pretended it was a great new feature.
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Does not surprise me in the least.

They are a clever bunch. The M10-P is justifiably more expensive than the M10 (it has desirable features). However, given the number of plain M10s that have flooded the market, we know that many users upgraded. So they paid the $700 difference, and then they paid another $1500 to trade-in.

The reality is that an M10-P cost many Leica users $9500+. Absurd, yet, for some, mere pennies (in a relative sense).
 
9500 American for a M10-P: "Absurd, yet for some, mere pennies . . ." 5000 on a used M10? My concern would be how long does a digital camera last? It's just a bunch of electronic circuits waiting its turn to break down or become obsolete when the newest technology is released. It's not value for your dollar.
 
Before I purchased the M10, I’ve been using M9 for 8 years. For other people, they may be using it for a decade now. Digital M provide me lots of conveniences and saved me lots of time from sending films and waiting it get developed and scanned. I believe in the long term it’s cheaper than using films nowadays.

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy using film cameras. But I will not hesitate to purchase a digital M since it does worth the investment. I am very looking forward to the next generation of digital M.
 
traveler_101 said:
9500 American for a M10-P: "Absurd, yet for some, mere pennies . . ." 5000 on a used M10? My concern would be how long does a digital camera last? It's just a bunch of electronic circuits waiting its turn to break down or become obsolete when the newest technology is released. It's not value for your dollar.
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It`s difficult to ignore those facts …. add in their somewhat parsimonious approach to "features" ,which are common on just about any other brand of camera, and it`s enough to tip the balance for some.
 
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... or become obsolete when the newest technology is released. It's not value for your dollar.
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This is certainly no new trend, the electronics industry thrives on perceived obsolescence. My father was recent lamenting the amount of money he's spent to have cutting edge entertainment technology. VHS, Betamax, DVD, Bluray, 4K... and you know there's something right around the corner. Brilliant marketing strategies are making "want" feel like "need".

All these points aside, I really like Leica digital cameras. They offer a fantastic shooting experience as well as superb image quality. If someone has the means by which to justify the purchase of a new one, I would never hold it against them.

I think the OP is on the right track with the purchase of a used M10. Personally, I'd wait for the release of the M11. :D
 
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