Is the M9 price falling with the stock market?

[Ko.Fe.]

I doubt that there are more than a few M9s out there that need a sensor replacement, if any.
And why specifically American owners? Most of the rest of the world runs to the same calendar.

Are you saying only Canadians have Thanksgiving on different from Americans week?
Happy Thanksgiving then! How is your Blackout Wednesday went?

 

[colker]

I doubt that there are more than a few M9s out there that need a sensor replacement, if any.
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Based on...?

 

[jsrockit]

??? What is wrong in buying one with a sensor that has been replaced with a new type one? Plenty of those on the market. Or buy a corroded one el cheapo and invest 1500 EU to refurbish it.

I thought it could happen again... and every person who has owned a M9 or MM, that I know, have had to have the sensor replaced. I know you are a self-appointed spokesperson, and I even like Leica, but the M9/MM situation hasn`t been handled well.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

Without some Leica person telling how many sensors were replaced by now and how many cameras with this sensor was sold, here is nobody else to tell the facts and to be taken seriously.

From what I have seen here and at LUF it is very common problem. But how many from total nobody knows, but Leica only.

And Happy Thanksgiving to Jaap.

 

[jaapv]

I thought it could happen again... and every person who has owned a M9 or MM, that I know, have had to have the sensor replaced. I know you are a self-appointed spokesperson, and I even like Leica, but the M9/MM situation hasn`t been handled well.

It can't happen again. The replacement sensors from the last years are corrosion-proof.

 

[jaapv]

Based on...?

Based on the forums telling us that all have had to be replaced... 😛

 

[jsrockit]

It can't happen again. The replacement sensors from the last years are corrosion-proof.

I hope this is true... but I could have sworn there have been a few that have went in twice for replacement. I may be wrong.

 

[colker]

Based on the forums telling us that all have had to be replaced... 😛

Ebay tells me there is a lot of cameras out there which did not get replacements.

 

[raid]

I hope this is true... but I could have sworn there have been a few that have went in twice for replacement. I may be wrong.

You are right (one one thing) and wrong (on the other thing).
I had two M9 sensor replacement. This is correct.
The first sensor was replaced with the same corrosion prone sensor type.
The second sensor was replaced with the new type sensor.

 

[ptpdprinter]

Based on the forums telling us that all have had to be replaced... 😛

I'll go out on a limb and wager that not all Leica owners follow forums, and that there are some M9 owners out there who know nothing about the corrosion issue or that their cameras might be affected. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

 

[jaapv]

I hope this is true... but I could have sworn there have been a few that have went in twice for replacement. I may be wrong.

There were a few reports, but all of them turned out to be simply dirty.

However, the early replacements were with the old type of sensor, of those a number went in twice.

If you buy an M9 with the new type sensor, there is no problem.

 

[jaapv]

I'll go out on a limb and wager that not all Leica owners follow forums, and that there are some M9 owners out there who know nothing about the corrosion issue or that their cameras might be affected. Perhaps ignorance is bliss.

I even know a few who knowingly didn't replace their sensor and rely on Photoshop.

As it is, my M9 and Monochrom1 (with new sensors 😉 ) are never-sell cameras. The M240 came and went, the M10 holds no interest for me. As far as I am concerned the M9 is the optimum digital M. It sits next to my M6 classic.

 

[colker]

You are right (one one thing) and wrong (on the other thing).
I had two M9 sensor replacement. This is correct.
The first sensor was replaced with the same corrosion prone sensor type.
The second sensor was replaced with the new type sensor.

That´s why buying a used one "w/ sensor replaced" is not reassuring.

 

[raid]

I even know a few who knowingly didn't replace their sensor and rely on Photoshop.

As it is, my M9 and Monochrom1 (with new sensors 😉 ) are never-sell cameras. The M240 came and went, the M10 holds no interest for me. As far as I am concerned the M9 is the optimum digital M. It sits next to my M6 classic.

My M9 sits side by side with my M3. I had a M240 as a loaner camera for many months, and while it worked flawlessly, it felt too bulky in my hands. The M9 is a classic, in my opinion. I miss having a Monochrom. I can't have them all. :bang:
Today, I have the Summicron 35/2 v1 on the M8 while my M9 has the Luy 35/1.4 on it. The M3 has on it the Hologon 16/8. Life is good.

 

[shawn]

That´s why buying a used one "w/ sensor replaced" is not reassuring .

You can tell the new sensor apart from the old sensor by going into the factory menu. But just buying based on 'sensor replaced' isn't enough.

Shawn

 

[shawn]

Ebay tells me there is a lot of cameras out there which did not get replacements.

So does KEH and other used dealers.

Shawn

 

[colker]

My M9 sits side by side with my M3. I had a M240 as a loaner camera for many months, and while it worked flawlessly, it felt too bulky in my hands. The M9 is a classic, in my opinion. I miss having a Monochrom. I can't have them all. :bang:
Today, I have the Summicron 35/2 v1 on the M8 while my M9 has the Luy 35/1.4 on it. The M3 has on it the Hologon 16/8. Life is good.

What about the image of the M9 x M240? They have very different sensors. I get used to bulk. I shot Pentax 67 for a decade. I shot movies w/a Pallard Bolex.

I want the image and a camera i can depend on.. not something that needs to go back and forth to the factory. I have left more than one camera at repair shops and never went back for them cause they wasted my work.

 

[raid]

I prefer much more the images from the M9 over the images from the M240. I use mostly ISO 160 for subtle beach colors that the M9 best captures with its sensor. The M240 seems to be a reliable workhorse with a large battery that runs forever (it seems). The M9 can slow me down, but in the end, it works. It is not good for quick back to back photos or for very low light scenes.

 

[colker]

I prefer much more the images from the M9 over the images from the M240. I use mostly ISO 160 for subtle beach colors that the M9 best captures with its sensor. The M240 seems to be a reliable workhorse with a large battery that runs forever (it seems). The M9 can slow me down, but in the end, it works. It is not good for quick back to back photos or for very low light scenes.

There is a blog around where a guy who is into Leica and works w/ digital image... he tweaks files of the m240 to be exactly like the m9. He shoots w/ both cameras at many situations, same lens and dares us to find which camera shot each file.

 

[raid]

That would require me to work on each image file each time. I do not have the time or patience for such image tweaks.