squirrel$$$bandit
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Black and white, I mean? I've been out of film photography for a while and I'm trying to suss out the health of the medium. Tri-X is what's most important to me, but it appears that Neopan is no more, is that right?
Mackinaw
Think Different
Ilford Delta 3200 can be shot at 1600, though It’s true E.I. is about 1000.
Jim B.
Jim B.
squirrel$$$bandit
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Ah, thank you! It's rather expensive, is it not?
edge100
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Tri-X is a ~EI 1600 film when developed in Diafine.
magicianhisoka
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More expensive than an average roll of tri-x/Hp5
But much more versatile if you're hankering after the speed. Wishing they would just have bulk roll ilford 3200
Bingley
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Yes, alas Neopan 1600 was discontinued several years ago. There aren't many fast bw films left. Delta 3200 is one of the few.
nikonosguy
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Fiji natura color film
http://shop.holgadirect.com/collections/35mm-film/products/fuji-natura-1600-35mm
http://shop.holgadirect.com/collections/35mm-film/products/fuji-natura-1600-35mm
majid
Fazal Majid
It works quite well, even if it doesn't have the acutance of Neopan 1600. Unfortunately the anti-halation layer in the new Tri-X means you can only use the Diafine once.
maddoc
... likes film again.
Could you explain why? The first time I read it about it and I have developed multiple rolls of TX400 in the same batch of Diafine in the past without noticing any degradation.
Alpsman
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Got finer grain with Tri-X @ 1600 than with Delta 3200 @ 1600 in Promicrol.
Sid836
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Indeed Tri-X although is being sold as an ASA 400 film, it pushes well to 1600 and provides great results in almost any common developer.
I have even pushed it to EI 3200. The results were rather duo tone. Not bad, but just almost no mid-tones.
I have even pushed it to EI 3200. The results were rather duo tone. Not bad, but just almost no mid-tones.
Vobluda
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Fujifilm Superia 1600 is still in production as well.
Rob-F
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Right, it's ISO 1000. And Neopan 1600 wasn't really ISO 1600, either. I tried shooting a roll under normal daylight conditions, at various exposure indexes, and got normal negatives at 640 and 800 (the film gave good exposures at either speed, and I couldn't tell which was better).
Roger Hicks
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Dear Jim,
Or about 1250 in Microphen or DDX. But as it is a very long-toe film it looks much better when overdeveloped (by ISO standards) and exposed at 1600-2500: it is very flat and dull at its true ISO speed and developed to ISO contrast.
Both Tri-X and HP5 Plus can be pushed to 1600 but shadow detail is a bit of a joke as compared with Delta 3200. Their true ISO speeds in Microphen/DD-X are 650. Neopan 1600 was about 1/3 stop faster than HP5 in pretty much any given developer, e.g 800 in DD-X.
Cheers,
R.
squirrel$$$bandit
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Thanks, all, this is excellent information.
Skiff
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+1.
If you want real speed and good shadow detail, Delta 3200 is the way to go.
Or Fuji Superia 1600, an then either printed optically on BW silver-halide paper, or scanned and converted to BW.
kuzano
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Try looking here:
Try looking here:
Frugal Photographer appears to have a film called Blue Sky Police or something like that, which i gather is a surveillance film...??????
They have some interesting film and photo products. I used them for processing 110 film from my little Pentax 110 Auto SLR. They probably send it out, bur return was timely and the work was good.
Try looking here:
Frugal Photographer appears to have a film called Blue Sky Police or something like that, which i gather is a surveillance film...??????
They have some interesting film and photo products. I used them for processing 110 film from my little Pentax 110 Auto SLR. They probably send it out, bur return was timely and the work was good.
Fotohuis
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Foma will launch next month the new Foma Retropan Soft 320, a low contrast B&W film at iso 320 and a normal contrast film at E.I. 640-1000 where they will fill the gap of Neopan 1600. The film will be available in 35mm, first perforated 17m-30,5m/100ft and later even in some sheet film formats. Let us see what this new film can produce according their new data sheet on the foma.cz website.
Roger Hicks
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Sounds fascinating but that's still about half the true ISO of Neopan. In other words, EI 1000 is more than a 2-stop push for the new film whereas EI 1000 is between 1/3 and 1/2 stop push from the ISO 650+ of Ilford HP5 Plus in Microphen. I REALLY look forward to trying it.
Cheers,
R.
Ko.Fe.
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More expensive than an average roll of tri-x/Hp5
But much more versatile if you're hankering after the speed. Wishing they would just have bulk roll ilford 3200
They have it at BH as special order with minimum of 20 bulk rolls.