haagen_dazs
Well-known
A newbie question..
but i was wondering to myself
if there are chrome film and bw negative film then...
is there such a thing as black and white slides (chrome) ????

but i was wondering to myself
if there are chrome film and bw negative film then...
is there such a thing as black and white slides (chrome) ????
rool
Well-known
Agfa Scala
Rafael
Mandlerian
It's amazing stuff!!!!
Jamie123
Veteran
Agfa Scala is one but if I'm not mistaken you can also develop most regular b&w negative films as slides.
bmicklea
RF Newbie
Yes, beautiful stuff but needs a specialized lab although there's bound to be some near you.
clintock
Galleryless Gearhead
mich8261
Well-known
sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but AGFA is no longer in business (or at least in the film business). There's a thread in the FILM and processing forum about it. It seems that some merchants may have a stock of it, but when it's gone, it's gone. Again from that same thread, I believe that A&I (www.aandi.com - I think) and dr5.com are two that can still process it.
I only know of it because I found 3 or 4 rolls that my wife had left in her camera bag. These are a few years old and were not stored properly, but because of the uniqueness, as soon as I can get my new Canonet to work, I'll be giving it a try.
Michel
I only know of it because I found 3 or 4 rolls that my wife had left in her camera bag. These are a few years old and were not stored properly, but because of the uniqueness, as soon as I can get my new Canonet to work, I'll be giving it a try.
Michel
Stu W
Well-known
Kodak sells or sold a chemical kit to develop their c41 film as a positive. Not sure where you can get it anymore. Stu
A
adayoncedawned
Guest
http://www.dr5.com/
I've always been curious about this process but I never used it. They make some rather interesting claims as far as quality is concerned.
I've always been curious about this process but I never used it. They make some rather interesting claims as far as quality is concerned.
steve garza
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Dr5 lab will process most B&W negative film into slides and apparently the results are amazing. The issue is having to send your film all the way to Colorado, USA for processing.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
It's no problem to develop most b&w films into slides, but the process is a bit tedious:
- primary developer
- water rinse
- bleaching bath (potassium permanganate plus sulphuric acid)
- water rinse
- clearing bath (sodium bisulfite)
- secondary exposure (five minutes under a 100W bulb in a water bath)
- secondary developer
- stop & fix as usual
A rotary processor helps, because the process is quite stressful on the emulsion and requires constant temperatures.
The chemicals are sold as a kit, e.g. there is a Foma slide kit sold by Fotoimpex/Retrophotographic/whatever their dependence in the US is.
It helps if you have a film that doesn't have a dense greybase. Agfa APX was great, Acros is OK, so are FP4/HP5. Efke films aren't bad either. Foma R100 is a specialised black & white slide film that produces great results. Lucky works, too, even though I don't like the look of the film either in positive or negative processes. Agfa Scala was great, but is apparently phased out.
Philipp
- primary developer
- water rinse
- bleaching bath (potassium permanganate plus sulphuric acid)
- water rinse
- clearing bath (sodium bisulfite)
- secondary exposure (five minutes under a 100W bulb in a water bath)
- secondary developer
- stop & fix as usual
A rotary processor helps, because the process is quite stressful on the emulsion and requires constant temperatures.
The chemicals are sold as a kit, e.g. there is a Foma slide kit sold by Fotoimpex/Retrophotographic/whatever their dependence in the US is.
It helps if you have a film that doesn't have a dense greybase. Agfa APX was great, Acros is OK, so are FP4/HP5. Efke films aren't bad either. Foma R100 is a specialised black & white slide film that produces great results. Lucky works, too, even though I don't like the look of the film either in positive or negative processes. Agfa Scala was great, but is apparently phased out.
Philipp
AusDLK
Famous Photographer
I have had many rolls processed at the dr5 lab.
Tri-X at ISO 800 is beautiful. I have a NYC series taken in October 2005 with my Xpan exposed and processed this way. I need to make some scans someday and publish a few of these...
Pick a film and an ISO and see what happens.
It is pricey though. ~$15 per roll + postage.
Tri-X at ISO 800 is beautiful. I have a NYC series taken in October 2005 with my Xpan exposed and processed this way. I need to make some scans someday and publish a few of these...
Pick a film and an ISO and see what happens.
It is pricey though. ~$15 per roll + postage.
R
rovnguy
Guest
I acquired 40 rolls of Kodak Panatomic-X (FX-135, ASA 32) which have been transferred from my friends freezer to mine. My son actually uses this film and he produces some very beautiful B&W tranparencies. He does not post here because he is a very dedicated SLR user.
photodog
Well-known
Kodak has a special chemistry for making slides using their Tmax 100 film. Do a search under "Kodak direct positive developing kit". A bit on the expensive side as BHPhoto sells the kit for $36.
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
thurows
Established
There is a direct positive developing kit made by Kodak for T-Max 100 also works for tech-pan. T-max negatives as positives are incredible in a slide show, with all that silver detail, and the old cibachrome prints were spectacular.
Kodak still mentions the kit on their site Slides from B&W negs B&H does not ship this kit so maybe your local camera store can order it.
Kodak still mentions the kit on their site Slides from B&W negs B&H does not ship this kit so maybe your local camera store can order it.
ldhayden@mac.co
ldhayden
First tme post from a new member.
The dr5 process is well worth the money for both it's quality as well as the time savings in getting B&W chromes. I shot with a Mamiya 7 and have used the dr5 process extensively over the last few years. I'm not where I can post images but you can check out my blog for some of the images and a link to the dr5 site.
Larry
http://haydenphotos.blogspot.com/
The dr5 process is well worth the money for both it's quality as well as the time savings in getting B&W chromes. I shot with a Mamiya 7 and have used the dr5 process extensively over the last few years. I'm not where I can post images but you can check out my blog for some of the images and a link to the dr5 site.
Larry
http://haydenphotos.blogspot.com/
Flinor
Well-known
Scala has been discontinued with the death of Agfa. B&H still has it on their website along with process mailers to Main Photo in CA which, along with dr5, are the only processors left. Main Photo claims that they have duplicated the chemistry and process and will process Scala as long as it exists. dr5 uses their proprietary process. I've used both for Scala and they are both very nice. I've also used dr5 for Tech Pan, which is also gone, and those results are stunning,
I like Scala enough that I'll stay with it as long as I can get it.
I like Scala enough that I'll stay with it as long as I can get it.
ARCHIVIST
Well-known
Ilford Xp2 As Mono Slide Film
Ilford Xp2 As Mono Slide Film
Ilford's XP2 when rated between 80 to 125 ISO and pushed processed 2 stops in E6 chemistry will give a monochrome slide. I do not use the term 'black & white' as the resulting trannies have a greenish cast to them as a result of the formaldehyde in the E6 chemistry. The cast is not a heavy one.
Do not let a lab owner tell you that XP2 processed this way will ruin his E6 chemistry - it will not.
Regards
Peter
Ilford Xp2 As Mono Slide Film
Ilford's XP2 when rated between 80 to 125 ISO and pushed processed 2 stops in E6 chemistry will give a monochrome slide. I do not use the term 'black & white' as the resulting trannies have a greenish cast to them as a result of the formaldehyde in the E6 chemistry. The cast is not a heavy one.
Do not let a lab owner tell you that XP2 processed this way will ruin his E6 chemistry - it will not.
Regards
Peter
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Ilford's Guide to using their B&W film for Reversal Processing:
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/20061291034093.pdf
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/20061291034093.pdf
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