Is this grainy or not ?

[hans voralberg]

Hi guys, need your opinion on this one, now I know grain is quite a subjective matter, but I just want to hear your opinions: Are these very grainy in your view ?

Film is HP5+ @ 250 in Tetenal Ultrafin SF 9.5 min

*sorry for the huge size, but I figure everything looks grainless <500 pixels*

 

[Maxapple88]

Not so much grainy, much rather not really in focus

 

[Maxapple88]

Not so much grainy, I'd say they're lacking focus. Looks like the shutter speeds are pretty long.

 

[1948nikon]

Beautiful 400 asa grain structure, similar to Kodak TriX . Don' worry about the out of focus
areas or slow shutter speed these are the components that go into creating that live creative feel.

 

[hans voralberg]

Cant help it, the place is pitch dark, I can hardly see the focus patch on my M3. Anyhow I'm testing my development time with Ultrafin so I dont care much about anything except grain structure and highlight/shadow details.

 

[Denis M.]

Here's an example of grain,

Delta 3200 at 6400. Expired by 2 years. The day looked like (to me) f/8 at 100iso, 1/500 at f/16 was as high as I could go, set to infinity. It's not snowing, believe it or not.

If you're shooting at @250, there shouldn't be able to see much grain. Was this wide open at f/1.5?

 

[Anupam]

Cant help it, the place is pitch dark, I can hardly see the focus patch on my M3. Anyhow I'm testing my development time with Ultrafin so I dont care much about anything except grain structure and highlight/shadow details.

In terms of exposure, I think you could get by with quite a bit less exposure for these scenes. I'd guess from the looks of it the lighting is in the range of EV 5 or 6. In fact, I'd say a shade above EV 6. For EI 250 @ f2 that should be 1/15 or 1/30. Quite doable handheld. If you shot the entire roll in contrasty light, I'd say underdevelop by 20% for N-1 development and you would get much better highlight shadow detail. In my experience, contrasty scenes often look darker to the eye and of course to meters than they really are and we tend to overexpose a bit.

HTH,
-A

 

[hans voralberg]

Thanks for all the input guys, the entire roll was shot at f1.5 and the EV was ~4-5. I'll experiment again and see how it goes