Stephanie Brim
Mental Experimental.
I know what ISO 400 film I'm buying for my trip to Colorado: Tri-X, no question. I know and love that film very much and it will be what I'm shooting most of the time. I would, however, like an ISO 100-125 film to take as well that I could use for times I don't need the extra speed of Tri-X. A note, though: the only ISO 100 film I've used extensively has been TMAX 100 and it was expired...but results came out well. I have a roll of Plus-X and a roll of Neopan ACROS to test out right now that are both in date. I'm planning to get my hands on a roll of Foma 100 as well. Should I try FP4 out? What about the ADOX CHM 125?
This will be used primarily as a film for landscapes and rated at box speed to be developed in Rodinal. I'll most likely be buying bulk.
This will be used primarily as a film for landscapes and rated at box speed to be developed in Rodinal. I'll most likely be buying bulk.
W
wlewisiii
Guest
I always used to use Plus-X but I've shifted over almost completely to Fomapan. It's good stuff and plays nice in Diafine at EI200 & can do EI400 if needed. Freestyle carries it in bulk under both the Foma label & the Arista.Edu Ultra label.
William
William
Stephanie Brim
Mental Experimental.
Yeah, I'd be going the cheaper Arista route. I like the idea that people say it's similar to APX 100...but Ultrafineonline still has APX 100 in bulk rolls and I'm tempted to get a couple instead. $5 more than getting Arista bulk.
peterc
Heretic
FP4+ is nice (in either Ilfosol or Rodinal). It isn't one of the cheaper films. APX 100 or Silvertone 100 are good and about half the price of FP4+.
Peter
Peter
FrankS
Registered User
Hi Steph, where I buy my film, APX 100 is the cheapest and the reults developed in Rodinol are very good, FP4+ is very good film but more expensive, and looks better developed in Ilfosol S.
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
This is a bit of a quandry for me, too. I'm not a fan of Plus-X. My favourite is APX100, but since Agfa is no more, I'd have to stock up big-time to keep myself supplied. I have a bit left from a bulk roll, but ...
I'm thinking of going to FP-4 because Ilford will be around the longest, IMO. I don't trust that the small players will necessarily be there long-term, and am a bit skittish of their QC. But the Adox is interesting.
I'm thinking of going to FP-4 because Ilford will be around the longest, IMO. I don't trust that the small players will necessarily be there long-term, and am a bit skittish of their QC. But the Adox is interesting.
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
I posted while Peter & Frank were posting. Hmmm... I'll be at Downtown Camera before the meetingt Sat; maybe I should stock up on Silvertone/Agfa.
grainhound
Well-known
Bought 10 rolls of APX 100 at Colourgenics a week or so ago. They had more, but I don't know what their current stock is. 11 Davies Ave. Pretend you're going to go north on the DVP from Queen; keep right (you'll see the split right away), that's Davies Ave. See you Sat.
Guy
Guy
FPjohn
Well-known
Apx100
Apx100
Hello:
The ASA100 films are the sweet spot in BW photography. I find that APX100>FP4+>PlusX in rank order in terms of even "temperness" in Rodinol 1/50. This is a matter of taste and others may differ. All offer excellent tonality. Acros100 differs greatly, not being a traditional emulsion.
http://not.contaxg.com/folder.php?id=536
Have a good trip.
Yours
Frank
Apx100
Hello:
The ASA100 films are the sweet spot in BW photography. I find that APX100>FP4+>PlusX in rank order in terms of even "temperness" in Rodinol 1/50. This is a matter of taste and others may differ. All offer excellent tonality. Acros100 differs greatly, not being a traditional emulsion.
http://not.contaxg.com/folder.php?id=536
Have a good trip.
Yours
Frank
ed1k
Well-known
Last time I checked Downtown Camera they have had Silvertone 400. I bought a couple of rolls at Aden camera - north of Dundas along Young - a few cents less per roll. Not sure if Downtown camera still has APX100 bulk but I remember seeing APX100 in cassettes (not recently I was there, so better to call them beforehand). AFAIK Downtown Camera had better price in Toronto for APX.
Eduard.
P.S. Sorry Steph
Eduard.
P.S. Sorry Steph
Stephanie Brim
Mental Experimental.
Sorry about what? You guys need film, too. 
Ronald M
Veteran
Delta 100 is great 100 speed. Rodinal at 1:50 is a good match at about 11/12 minutes.
Grain will be much finer than Agfa. at the same dilution of Rodinal.
What evver you do, test it before you leave.
Grain will be much finer than Agfa. at the same dilution of Rodinal.
What evver you do, test it before you leave.
Wayne R. Scott
Half fast Leica User
Hmm, Colorado in the fall during the color change of the leaves?
I think I would shoot some 100 iso slide film, Velvia perhaps.
I am a little different though.
Wayne
I think I would shoot some 100 iso slide film, Velvia perhaps.
I am a little different though.
Wayne
Stephanie Brim
Mental Experimental.
A little? 
Since I'm going in October I'm guessing that the leaves will be almost done changing. However, I have 8 rolls of Velvia 50 just in case.
Since I'm going in October I'm guessing that the leaves will be almost done changing. However, I have 8 rolls of Velvia 50 just in case.
ed1k
Well-known
Sorry about stealing your thread.
Back on track. Personally I don't like Delta 100 in Rodinal - grain may be smaller but it looks weird. At least I got something like germs under microscope and I like grain like fine sand under naked eye. So, APX100 is my way. Delta 100 gives reasonable good tonality. Acros 100 (not in Rodinal, I didn't try it in Rodinal) gives incredible small grain (smaller or comparable to PanF which is 25-32 ISO) but tonality is a bit weird. I found Acros is an excellent film for portraits. For lanscapes I'd use APX100 or PanF - my second love, but 4 times slower - both films give rich tonality and good contrast. Delta 100 is good film especially for lanscapes but in something different than Rodinal, IMHO.
Eduard.
P.S. All above related to grain of Delta 100 is applicable for traditional darkroom printing 8x10'' and above, for PS you can disolve grain (it's very fine, so not a big loss) and get grainless prints.
Back on track. Personally I don't like Delta 100 in Rodinal - grain may be smaller but it looks weird. At least I got something like germs under microscope and I like grain like fine sand under naked eye. So, APX100 is my way. Delta 100 gives reasonable good tonality. Acros 100 (not in Rodinal, I didn't try it in Rodinal) gives incredible small grain (smaller or comparable to PanF which is 25-32 ISO) but tonality is a bit weird. I found Acros is an excellent film for portraits. For lanscapes I'd use APX100 or PanF - my second love, but 4 times slower - both films give rich tonality and good contrast. Delta 100 is good film especially for lanscapes but in something different than Rodinal, IMHO.
Eduard.
P.S. All above related to grain of Delta 100 is applicable for traditional darkroom printing 8x10'' and above, for PS you can disolve grain (it's very fine, so not a big loss) and get grainless prints.
eli griggs
Well-known
Has anyone here tried the ADOX films J&C offers? I'm ordering bulk rolls in 25, 50 and 100 ISO this week and have read favorable reports elsewhere. They sound to me like a good match to the FED and Yashica rangefinders I'm using.
Cheers,
Eli
Cheers,
Eli
kmack
do your job, then let go
You will like the Neopan ACROS particularly in rodinal. I am finishing off 100' of FP4 now, I really like it in Clayton F76 but I find that it can seem muddy if you over expose it. I never liked the way it looked in Diafine either.
The Adox (Fotokemika Efke) KB100 is very tasty, It develops well in HC110, Rodinal, and Diafine. When I shoot the KB100 at speed and develop in Clayton F76 it seems almost grainless. I have also been using the Efke PL100 in 4x5 and love it.
The Adox (Fotokemika Efke) KB100 is very tasty, It develops well in HC110, Rodinal, and Diafine. When I shoot the KB100 at speed and develop in Clayton F76 it seems almost grainless. I have also been using the Efke PL100 in 4x5 and love it.
markinlondon
Elmar user
Speaking as an FP4 fan, it's worth noting that if ADOX CHM125 is still available in your area it is (or rather was) rebadged FP4+. Ilford have now stopped making film for other people and this will now be a "while stocks last" deal. I've been trying to find the APUG thread that explains this but without success. The joy of FP4+ is that I've yet to find a developer that makes it look bad.
Mark
Mark
kaiyen
local man of mystery
I would also recommend a newer emulsion, as you'll get better sharpness and the straighter curve with shorter toe and curve will give you a nice tonal range. That's my bet.
One thing that strikes me is your decision to shoot at box speed. What that insistence? Is the difference between 100 and 80 that big of an issue in terms of handholdability? I'm just presuming you're not using a tripod, in which case there is _no_ difference between the two.
allan
One thing that strikes me is your decision to shoot at box speed. What that insistence? Is the difference between 100 and 80 that big of an issue in terms of handholdability? I'm just presuming you're not using a tripod, in which case there is _no_ difference between the two.
allan
Stephanie Brim
Mental Experimental.
I shoot at box speed except on two occasions: when I'm pushing film and when I'm shooting chromes. I've found that shooting box speed and then developing in Rodinal works relatively well right now. It isn't that I don't want to shoot at 80, I just don't feel the need to. Depending on circumstance, though, that may chance and I'll change plans accordingly. I have a feeling, though, that I won't be needing to compensate for anything much with the ISO 100 film.
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