J. Lane Glass Dry Plates

FYI from Apug.org


I’m happy to announce that I’ve just begun testing of a dry plate holder prototype which Chroma Camera and Pictoriographica have partnered to create! This holder is an affordable, quality solution to the problem dry plate photographers face in that this critical piece of equipment hasn’t been made in decades! There are high quality wet plate holders available that work, but honestly I’d prefer to carry two plates per holder just like I carry sheet film.

Leveraging our engineering backgrounds and our uniquely suited familiarity with dry plates and large format cameras, we have a design for a modern dry plate holder which meets the requirements that we as photographers ourselves would expect for quality, practicality, and — most importantly — affordability.

We currently plan to offer plate holders in the most common sizes of 4x5, 5x7, and 8x10 thru the Kickstarter.

Pic is of the two 4x5 prototype designs that I am testing, from which we will downselect to the final design in time for the campaign launch.

Campaign start is ~2 months out (depending on our dayjob workload).

If you’re not familiar with Chroma Camera, I encourage you to check their stuff out at http://chroma.camera/

Cheers,
Jason

J Lane Chroma Dry Plate Holder by Nokton48, on Flickr

Ah ha... now these would fit standard 4x5 camera's, like the speed graphic, correct?
Yes absolutely. That’s my workhorse camera so I’ve already verified that they fit in the Speed Graphic. Since then I’ve basically been shoving the prototypes into every camera I come across to verify we properly sized it. So far so good. One slight twist: the antique film sheaths out there should fit as well so you can also run film in these...I’m testing that tonight to verify.

One thing we did know going into this is that film holder dimensions were standardized long ago, so that all the film holders out there would fit into all the cameras out there. Sort of like how film sizes are standardized. If I remember correctly, there’s a thread in the photrio archives on the topic.

We used the dimensions in that standard for establishing the basic critical “interfacing to the camera” dimensions in this holder. Making sure it fits into cameras as well as any other film holder was one of the key requirements. The current prototype testing will tell us whether we did our homework right, and gives us a chance to iron out the kinks even before the campaign launches. So yeah bottom line is I’m confident we have that nailed down.

These initial Kickstarter offerings are intended to fit 4x5, 5x7, and 8x10 "standard backs" you could say, so in general use the rule of thumb that they will fit a camera that a "modern" sheet film holder will fit. This was an intentional decision to limit the scope of the Kickstarter to balance our available time since we both work day jobs. However, we also intentionally made this a scalable design, because after that I wanted to ensure we could supply plate holders in any size people would need. That's the same philosophy as for my dry plates so it should come as no surprise. If older Graflox backs require something slightly different, then I expect to be able to provide that... just not until after the KS.

Cheers,
Jason
 
I hope you will not banish me from the thread for posting this here since it's strictly not about J Lane. The plan was to try out some plates that are available in Europe first, so I ordered a pack of Agfa APX 100 glass plates from Macodirect in Germany. I did not compare prices before ordering, but I see now that the Agfa plates are considerably dearer than J Lane plates even if I take shipping cost from the US into consideration. Next time I will order from J Lane.

Today I also received an old English Envoy plate developer tank. It's made of bakelite and it can process four plates with five ounces of developer.

In a few days I expect to get a small lot of Mamiya type J glass holders for my Polaroid 600SE plus a wooden drying rack.


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Welcome to the dry plate fold, Kai. We're a small but very dedicated group. Very cool! I've seen those plates at one of the German dealers. Very tempting but very pricey also. Looking forward to seeing your results. I really like APX100 in 120, still have some in the freezer.
 
A couple of weeks ago I went to a beautiful ravine near my hometown to practice a little more with my 9x12 J.Lane plates. With these I begin to feel satisfied, even considering that I have still much to learn from LF photography, and even more dry plates. All were developed in trays with safelight and using HC110 and Iford Rapid Fixer.




First one taken with a KW Patent Etui camera, made c. 1929.




Second one was taken with a Bülter & Stammer camera, made probably in the period 1905-1914. This camera was quite dirty when I bought it last year, but appears to work quite well, specially it's Bausch&Lomb Unicum shutter.



Both images "scanned" with a light table and a Nikon D750. Still having problems with my Epson V800 scanner. How do you configure it to scan dry plates?
 
I've been stocking up some supplies lately. I've managed to find a few Mamiya type J film/plate holders at a sensible price. From FotoImpex I ordered a nice wood drying rack, good to know that these are available in Europe. It is most likely designed for 4x5, but it looks like I can use it for 6.5x9 as well. If not I shall have to do a small modification.
For archiving the plates I've found an old card index box of the type you may have seen in public libraries. I intend to put a divider down the middle of it so I can stack two rows of plates side by side. I've also ordered some packs of 7x10cm glassine bags to put the plates in.



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The last two J.Lane dry plates I used in Colobrers stream, near Sabadell. Both images taken with a 9x12 Ernemann Heag I camera, and developed in trays with HC110.


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Hey guys, how do you decide which is the emulsion side of the plates? I suppose touching the emulsion side is not a good idea, and there is no instructions on the Agfa APX package. I'm not sure I can load these using a red safelight since it is a panchromatic film? Any tips?
 
Hey guys, how do you decide which is the emulsion side of the plates? I suppose touching the emulsion side is not a good idea, and there is no instructions on the Agfa APX package. I'm not sure I can load these using a red safelight since it is a panchromatic film? Any tips?
Agfa? I've only used J.Lane plates, but they have the same kind of notch on the upper-right side of the emulsion side. You can just feel it with your fingers.
 
The Plaubel Makina GAS got the better of me, today I received a model IIS in very nice condition. It came with three lenses, two Anticomar 100mm f2.9 and 4.2 respectively and an Orthar 73mm f6.8. Not shown in the picture I also got 12 plate holders in a leather case and an old Rada 6x9 film back without frame counter. There are two red index windows on the roll film back, makes me wonder if these originally came with a 6x6 mask as well?



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It's so sticky that the dust is my main enemy when developing the plates. Probably being there from the vintage holders, or the bellows.


I've just received a couple of boxes from J. Lane, both ASA 25!! One in 1/4 plate (for my Goerz Ango), and another in 3A format (for my brand new (literally) Kodak Combination back, that will go in one of my three No.3A Folding Pockets). I LOVE these cameras.
 
Thanks Dan! It took me a while to realize that the bellows has two stops, one for wide angle lenses and one for normal lenses. I feared that the rangefinder was not working before I realized it will only work on the longest extension. Still it's useful for the wide angle lens by checking the distance and then dial it in on the wide angle scale. I found the rangefinder easy to focus and using the viewfinder works fine even with my glasses on.
 
Would you happen to know what filter thread the Makina lenses have? It looks very close to 42mm, but I have not got any filters of that size to test.
 
Well, returning to the subject of the J. Lane dry plates, here's another one. 2 ASA, 9x12 format, shoot with a KW Patent Etui made c.1929. Sadly I made the mistake of reusing the cleaning water from another sesion... wich had left a dark deposit at the bottom of the tray which left spots of dirt in the plate, although I tried to clean it more.




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Sant Salvador, a neo-romanesque church in Sabadell, Catalonia. May look medieval, but it is only about 65 years old.
 
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