Judgement Day May 21st 2011

Amen to that AND the Dalai Lama, I think, is correct.

Now, about which gear to bring....

Roger Hicks said:
This is back to the argument that even if our worst enemy, or the biggest fool on earth, says the sky is blue, it doesn't stop the sky being blue. As HH Dalai Lama pointed out, religion is the consequence of universal responsibility and the good heart, not its origin.

I had doubts about posting the original question, but it seemed to me that it was so much in the tradition of "I am going to ________, what camera(s) should I take?" that I couldn't resist: I was quite careful how I framed it, so that at worst it would offend only those few who actually believe that there will be a one-off Rapture tomorrow. My favourite post so far was the Circle of Hell reserved for minilab operators, with their green and magenta skins.

Cheers,

R.
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rapture pranks include:

1. leaving one-person's-worth piles of clothes on the sidewalk

2. leaving such piles of clothes in parked cars

3. blowing up blowup dolls with helium and then letting them loose over your city
 
Scripture clearly states that film camera photographers get to rapture first...then maybe they take the digital photographers. (maybe...like in "don't count on it!")

Then since there may be a great deal of electrical stuff going on like EMP etc. I'll be taking only my completely manual cameras like my trusty old M2 and M4-P.

Digital stuff like M9s, get really zapped, according to scripture, and will be useless. Sorry.

Read yer bible...it's all there!
 
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So what if this guarantee proves to be useless? Will this be over and done with then? Guaranteed? :angel:

Suggested soundtrack to the Rapture.
 
As far as cameras are concerned. You are all wrong. Polaroid 180 or 195. All Mechanical, processed instantly, and take it with you.

As far as the thread is concerned- It might not make it to Sunday...
 
robklurfield said:
Anyway, for those of you who are expecting the rapture this weekend, please FedEx all that nice gear and film you won't be needing, as I fully expect to still be a P.I.A. walking this earth afterward.:D
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No way! My Bessa's are going with me! President Obama has a staff photographer...well, Jesus will have one too & it's gonna be me!:cool::)
 
I'm wondering why there is a person in the corner of that poster (in Manila, foto above, credit unknown), who is apparently crouching down fulfilling a daily bodily function?? (As it were).
 
Down here it's 7.00am on the 21st already and so far it's just a normal Saturday. I'll post later if anything special happens :D .

clay
 
Roger Hicks said:
As far as I'm aware, the vast majority of Christian sects are about as convinced of the reality of a 'rapture' as most of the people who have responded to this thread. 'Rapture' seems to be a late 19th century invention, with little or no justification in either Scripture or Holy Writ. I don't recall any mention of it in the Koran either, nor yet in any Hindu or Buddhist holy books I've ever encountered. I don't think it's even in the great Holy Book of the 19th and 20th centuries, Das Kapital.

I suppose that in a sense, one should not denigrate any sincerely held belief, but that leaves me with a problem with communism, let alone with anyone who bases their beliefs on a highly selective reading of widely respected works.

Cheers,

R.
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Mr Hicks, are you not aware of the Bible's mention of rapture? Of course, the word rapture is not in the King James Bible. The Greek writings used the word harpatzo. It was translated in the Latin Vulgate using the word which was then translated as rapture by some in English. Elsewhere it is translated as snatched. So I must admit I don't understand your mid-19th century time frame. You are correct that the Koran doesn't mention it, nor a belief in sin it seems, and certainily no books of a religion that believes in reincarnation would mention it.

Roger Hicks said:
So: you mean that thieves in the night DON'T put up posters saying "I'm gonna rob your house tonite"?

I'm not sure I agree that "the most important thing we can do with this life is figure out what happens after it". I'd suggest that it's far more important to try to live as good a life as possible, because we know we can help or harm people here on Earth, and everything else is just surmise. Is Allah (the Maltese, Christian word for God as well as the usual Islamic form) going to allow a thoroughly unpleasant Moslem or Christian into paradise, and kick out HH Dalai Lama?

As an aside, I have a problem with the idea of a God without a sense of humour. I already believe that blasphemy is impossible -- a Supreme Being is obviously beyond the reach of earthly insult, so it's only nutjob followers who reckon it does any real harm -- and a logical consequence is that a God who can't take a joke is not much of a God.

Cheers,

R.
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It has to do with the concept of sin, which a Holy God must be against. And I am no expert on logic, but could you explain the path of your logic sir?

Believing in the Bible, I cannot believe Mr. Camping can know the day of the rapture. So when the rapture does come, if I am still alive, I will be raptured (snatched), and whatever I leave behind will be of no consequence to me. Again, others may believe as they wish.
 
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oftheherd said:
Mr Hicks, are you not aware of the Bible's mention of rapture? Of course, the word rapture is not in the King James Bible. The Greek writings used the word harpatzo. It was translated in the Latin Vulgate using the word was then translated as rapture by some in English. Elsewhere it is translated as snatched. So I must admit I don't understand your mid-19th century time frame. You are correct that the Koran doesn't mention it, nor a belief in sin it seems, and certainily no books of a religion that believes in reincarnation would mention it.



It has to do with the concept of sin, which a Holy God must be against. And I am no expert on logic, but could you explain the path of your logic sir?

Believing in the Bible, I cannot believe Mr. Camping can know the day of the rapture. So when the rapture does come, if I am still alive, I will be raptured (snatched), and whatever I leave behind will be of no consequence to me. Again, others may believe as they wish.
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Note my use in the post you quote of the phrase 'seems to be'. I'd need to read more closely, as you apparently have, and I have no desire to contradict your almost certainly superior scriptural knowledge. Perhaps you would be kind enough to give me chapter and verse? 'Rapture' is not a part of any of the major Christian sects with which I am familiar, but again, this may be a deficiency on my part.

The dispute about faith and works -- whether one earns grace, or is granted it -- is ancient and not, I suspect, entirely fruitful. It is rather like the distinction some Buddhists make between achieving enlightenment, and recognizing that one is already enlightened.

We are of one mind that on any normal reading of the Bible Mr. Camping can neither know the day of the Rapture, if there is to be one, nor presume to know it, which is the basic premise of this thread. It is in the phrase "if there is to be one" that we may disagree, but not, I fear, fruitfully.

We are also of one mind that anyone may believe what he wishes, but you must surely accept that this is a question of belief, not proof, and that there is no logical or inherent reason why a God or gods need give us permission to believe or not.

Cheers,

R.
 
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Not sure this pertains to photography, but I have always confused "rapture" with "ravish"! One leads to the other, at least in French literature!

When I was a child, my well-thumbed catechism recommended "ejaculations" or the repetition of various prayers as a way to reduce one's time in purgatory. I have been ejaculating ever since....
 
Sorry for this, but all that talk about strawberry ice cream had me thinking that people were looking forward to getting their just desserts.
 
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