Jupiter-12 to Canon P?

[planetjoe]

Hi, everyone.

I realize that this combination is regularly "waved off" with a common warning about the rear element crashing into the P's baffles, but I've lately seen some scattered suggestions that it is, at least, sometimes possible.

Has anyone here had this particular success? I'm interested in learning which of the several design variations of the J-12 (i.e., which serial no.'s/years) seems to fit.

In the interest of full disclosure, I have a similar post over at photonet, so I hope I'm not "over-fishing", so to speak. Thanks in advance for your help and anecdotes.


-joe.

 

[back alley]

never tried it myself.

welcome to the forum.

joe

 

[Stephanie Brim]

Never tried it either...but if you find out, let me know. I need a 35 for some shots I want to do in the next couple of weeks and I can't really afford more than 100 bucks for another lens. The Canon 35/2.8 is even going for higher than that on Ebay. I'm bummed.

 

[xayraa33]

My Ltm J-12s on the Canon P:...... 1953 silver J-12 , no go,... 1960 silver J- 12, ok, good fit.... 1977 J-12 , black, ok good fit... 1978 J-12 black, ok, good fit .The 1953 J-12. seems to be happy on a Zorki 1 & 4 and a Fed 5c, it is not compatable with the Canons or Ltm Leicas. So most of my Jupiter -12s can be used on most of my Canons( the exception is a Canon III) & Ltm Leicas. Most J-12s fit the Canon models it seems, probably from the IIIa(universal thread) onwards.but knowing FSU gear can vary somewhat, I would suggest some carefull exploration & trials.

 

[planetjoe]

...thanks for the welcome; I've been lurking for some time, learning a ton.

I'm in a similar financial predicament as Stephanie - although I usually don't mind my predicaments very wisely. I'll probably be buying a J-12 to "try" it out, anyway. It will always re-sell, I figure.

...besides which, I don't think the P will be my last (or only) LTM rangefinder for long. It will probably remain one of my favorites, though.


-joe.

 

[back alley]

'It will probably remain one of my favorites, though.'

as it should 🙂

joe

 

[planetjoe]

xayraa33:

That's precisely the kind of info I was looking for. Now, at least, I know I wasn't hallucinating about this combination being possible. And, you're undoubtedly right about the FSU "variabilities".

Hopefully, it won't take much trial and/or error. Thanks. And maybe other "users" will crawl out of the woodwork; it'll be like a revival meeting of underground 35-shooters.


-joe.

 

[xayraa33]

From my tests with the Ltm Jupiter 12s, it seems that most of them fit the Canon P. The J -12 is a fine lens & if you get one that does not fit the Canon P, buy a Zorki 4 for it. Classic FSU lens meets classic FSU body.

 

[taffer]

Hey welcome ! 🙂

Greyhoundman has now my ltm J-12. It was a black 1981 version (IIRC), I was able to mount that one on my Canon 7, with similar inner baffles as the P. That said, the edge of the rear element came REALLY close to the upper baffle, to the point where I highly preferred to use my CV lens on it.

The J-12 is a good lens, but after getting a Canon 35/2.8 for that 'classic look', I decided it was not meant for sitting on the shelf...

 

[xayraa33]

I would hedge my bet on a Black J-12 from the mid to late 1970s that is in great shape. I would slowly screw it on an empty Canon P that is set on'B" & shutter is held open by a lockable cable release. From the cameras open back, I would see if the protuding glass element of the J-12 is touching the baffles & that you can actually screw the lens in all the way, on my 1953 J-12, I cannot screw the lens in so it is "flange to flange"but all my other J-12s are good, the focus is smooth and the rangefinder on the P has no problem, ranging properly to infinity

 

[Stephanie Brim]

If anyone wants to sell one that will fit on a Canon P to save me the hassle of trying to find one, I'd be much obliged. 😛

 

[airds]

Jupiter-12 manufacture dates

Jupiter-12 manufacture dates

Obliged if anybody could advise how - or provide a URL to information - on how to work it out.

Thanks in advance.

 

[kiev4a]

Obliged if anybody could advise how - or provide a URL to information - on how to work it out.

Thanks in advance.

On the Jupiter 12 the first two digits of the SN are the year of manufacture.

 

[airds]

Doh! Jupiter dates ...

Doh! Jupiter dates ...

On the Jupiter 12 the first two digits of the SN are the year of manufacture.

Thanks Wayne

Doh! A Homer minute there - sometimes it's the simplest things .... these cunning Soviets 🙂

That makes it s a '76 model and fits only just in my VI-L - so agrees with the current theory. It was fitted on receiving the camera & lens, so any cosmetic damage was already done.
rdgs

 

[planetjoe]

By the way - and I didn't mean for this to take so long, but you know shipping from the FSU - my J-12 arrived today, and it was all I could do to wait until getting home from work to try it out on my P.

As it turns out, an initial inspection shows NO interference with the baffles or the lightbox assembly in my particular case. I have a rather breathtaking example of a black enamel J-12, #87XXXXX, which on quick investigation seems to focus correctly. I should finish my current test roll in about ten nanoseconds, so if there are any more subtle issues, I'll know shortly.

Thanks, to everyone, for their contributions to this "project" of mine; I hope that this thread can contribute to more folks enjoying J-12s on their Canon Ps. Because, if I might say so, the combination looks SO nice. And I bet it shoots even nicer.

Now all I have to do is figure out what do do with my recently-acquired, out-of-registration J-8 50/2. I guess that's what I get for an $8 lens.


Cheers,
-joe.

 

[xayraa33]

I am happy it turned out ok for you, I knew that it would. the P is a great camera and the Jupiter-12 is one of my favorite lenses, a nice combination I would say.

 

[back alley]

i think we need a pic of that!!

joe

 

[planetjoe]

et, voila.

Sorry for the shallow DOF; no convenient tripod (or steady hand) handy. And in the interest of full disclosure, this image was captured with a dSLR.


-joe.

 

[back alley]

lovely!!

my poor ol' heart just skips a beat when i see a beautiful canon p.
i assume it's the same feeling that leica folks talk about...

thanks joe,

joe

 

[xayraa33]

handsome, really handsome.