Well, I just won and auction for a Jupiter 8. I am very entertianed by all of the web sites discussing Russian camera equipment. Not one says definitively that anything is of any consistent quality. For the prices though I will cross my fingers and hope mine is a good one. I can imagine the anticipation of opening the first set of prints wondering if they will be of the quality of those produced using classic Zeiss optics, or of the latter day Holga. In the end the only people making money on these deals are the postal services. Shipping cost were as much as the purchase price.