schow
Well-known
Hi Folks,
I wasn't sure where to put this thread since I shot these pics with a bessa R3A and a Jupiter 9. Anyhow, I thought some folks might be interested in seeing what the J-9 can do close up and wide open.
I do love my hibiscus flowers, but I sure wish I could film them better.
A strawberry I left for the birds to pick at.
Personally, I think I may have to stick with an aperture between 2.8 and 4 in terms of the OOF or bokeh. The bokeh here at f2 just looks to blobby and amorphous to me.
Sherm
I wasn't sure where to put this thread since I shot these pics with a bessa R3A and a Jupiter 9. Anyhow, I thought some folks might be interested in seeing what the J-9 can do close up and wide open.
I do love my hibiscus flowers, but I sure wish I could film them better.
A strawberry I left for the birds to pick at.
Personally, I think I may have to stick with an aperture between 2.8 and 4 in terms of the OOF or bokeh. The bokeh here at f2 just looks to blobby and amorphous to me.
Sherm
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laptoprob
back to basics
Do you have a comparison of the different apertures, Sherm?
I am happy to have a good copy of this marvellous lens.
I am happy to have a good copy of this marvellous lens.
schow
Well-known
Hi Rob,
I do have a couple of other pics. Nothing scientific, mind you.
This is almost identical to the third shot. The aperture is somewhere in between 2.8-4.
This is 2.8
I do have a couple of other pics. Nothing scientific, mind you.
This is almost identical to the third shot. The aperture is somewhere in between 2.8-4.
This is 2.8
laptoprob
back to basics
I am planning to do a comparison test between at least the Jupiter 9 and the Tele Elmarit fat one, maybe the two 135's as well. The black uncoated Elmar and the coated chrome Hektor. I definitely want wide open shots. Maybe tomorrow...
NickTrop
Veteran
I don't have the ltm Jupiter 9 but I do have it in M42. Man, I love that lens. My SLR is practically a fixed lens camera. The Jupiter 9 is almost always on it these days. Wonderful lens.
Nokton48
Veteran
Great photos. So the sweet spot is about f3.5.
Man, can't wait to get going with my J-9.
Yesterday I shipped it to Fedka, it's ungoing an interior cleaning and collimation.
Should be back in a week.
Man, can't wait to get going with my J-9.
Yesterday I shipped it to Fedka, it's ungoing an interior cleaning and collimation.
Should be back in a week.
NickTrop
Veteran
Yes forgot to mention, niiice pics.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I was messing around with my J3 last weekend and was curious to see how it was at min focus and max aperture?
They are a surprising lens and I can't believe I used to be so wary of buying one .. and it's not like they cost an arm and a leg!
They are a surprising lens and I can't believe I used to be so wary of buying one .. and it's not like they cost an arm and a leg!
schow
Well-known
Thanks guys. Yeah, the J-9 is great. I almost want to make it my standard to go lens even though it's an 85mm!
Keith, I'm eying a J-3 myself. Your pics don't help!
Are those little horses for carousels? Reminds me of motion with them all lined up like that.
Keith, I'm eying a J-3 myself. Your pics don't help!
Are those little horses for carousels? Reminds me of motion with them all lined up like that.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
schow said:
Yes ... they're off a kid's merry go round. A friend of mine was repainting them for a customer and I couldn't resist lining them up for a pic before they went back to their normal lives!
After seeing your shots I lust for the J9 for my Kiev II!
mjflory
Accumulator
Sherm, those are lovely pictures... Looks like you live in a colorful place! I don't mind the out-of-focus areas in the wide-open shots at all. I find it easier to focus my attention on the hibiscus in the wide-open shot, in fact, and the J9 certainly seems to yield a sharp image at that aperture.
I've wanted to try my Jupiter 9 in Kiev/Contax mount. It looks like it should be everything I've hoped for.
I've wanted to try my Jupiter 9 in Kiev/Contax mount. It looks like it should be everything I've hoped for.
schow
Well-known
Hi Michael,
I think I actually messed up one of the pictures while rearranging things on my flickr. This is the comparison I meant for people to see.
Wide Open:
Between 2.8-4:
I think I actually messed up one of the pictures while rearranging things on my flickr. This is the comparison I meant for people to see.
Wide Open:
Between 2.8-4:
mjflory
Accumulator
I'm trying to decide which I like better. I think the answer is... both! Each one has its virtues, its own character.
I've been trying to learn a little about lens design and to learn to see the difference it makes in images. When I looked at your pictures it seemed to me that I could see something "Sonnar-like" in the out-of-focus areas: they don't seem perfectly smooth and featureless, but instead seem to have a "painterly" character, as if the background were painted in little strokes. (My description may be the thing that's really out of focus, but I'm not sure how else to put it.) In any case, I was pleased to discover that a Jupiter-9 is indeed considered a Sonnar-type lens, which is one with a relatively small number of elements among which is a cemented triplet. So perhaps I'm making progress in my lens study...
Thanks so much for posting the pictures!
I've been trying to learn a little about lens design and to learn to see the difference it makes in images. When I looked at your pictures it seemed to me that I could see something "Sonnar-like" in the out-of-focus areas: they don't seem perfectly smooth and featureless, but instead seem to have a "painterly" character, as if the background were painted in little strokes. (My description may be the thing that's really out of focus, but I'm not sure how else to put it.) In any case, I was pleased to discover that a Jupiter-9 is indeed considered a Sonnar-type lens, which is one with a relatively small number of elements among which is a cemented triplet. So perhaps I'm making progress in my lens study...
Thanks so much for posting the pictures!
Nokton48
Veteran
Fedka's repair guy received my J9 yesterday.
Got another email last night- Lens is done and shipping out. That was fast.
Got a silver Canon 85mm "Torpedo" Viewfinder to use with the J9.
Got another email last night- Lens is done and shipping out. That was fast.
Got a silver Canon 85mm "Torpedo" Viewfinder to use with the J9.