Kiev 2a and 36 exposure film

[Marc-A.]

Hello,
Maybe the question has already been addressed, but I didn't find the anwser I need:
I am considering the acquisition of a Kiev 2a, but I would like to know if Kiev RF allow the use of 36 exposure films or only 24 exp films? I read somewhere that there are problems with 36 exp films. What about Contax RF?
Best,
Marc

 

[kmack]

I have had no trouble with 36 exp film in my Kiev 3a.

 

[Socke]

I think in the good old days when they used a nitrocelulose base it was not stable enough to make a filmbase thin enough for 135 casettes with more than 20 exposures.

 

[colyn]

I shoot 36 exposure rolls in my Kiev 4a's without problems. In fact I seldom use smaller rolls.

 

[burninfilm]

Shooting 36 exposure rolls in the Kiev/Contax won't be a problem, besides, why else would the cameras have film counters that go up past 35? I hardly ever use a 24 exposure roll anyway.

Also, I really don't understand the implication that film bases weren't thin enough once upon a time for a 36 exposure casette. Especially considering that 36 exposure rolls have been available since the 1930's. By the time the Kiev's came about, safety film was the standard anyway.

 

[Marc-A.]

Thank you all for your replies. I knew you could help me 🙂
I really want to buy a Kiev 2(a), a superb camera. I guess it's time to have a look at the Bay...
Marc

 

[Ash]

Just to add... I roll my film to about 40 exposures, and I have no problems in my Kiev, so dont worry 🙂

 

[Xmas]

Marc

One of the annoying faults which some % cameras have which is difficult to fix, (but should be possible yourself) is (uneven) frame spacing which can be variable from the beginning to the end of the 36/40 frames. The chrome film slide mounting robots normally tolerate the uneven spacing.

Even Russ the Kiev repair expert confesses to having this problem.

Noel

 

[Ash]

That's why I add a some 5 exposures to each roll... the frame spacing loses a few exposures per roll I find. Still no idea on a true fix to this?

 

[Xmas]

Ash

Problem may be wear or glue wax debri on clutch. The clutch is ment to slip, if it does not slip torn sprockets.

If it is only the spacing that is a problem leave it alone if Russ the Canuk has a problem addressing, it it is difficult.

If you are tearing sprockets, then visit local gun shop for PTFE liquid lube they will stock it for shot guns and air rifles - about 2-3£.

Apply one drop to screw on inside of take up sproket forks axis with the camero upside down operate camera winder holding the forks stationary to try and work the PTFE in to the clutch mechanism which is just under the screw head in the centre of the forks.

If you dont get enough in you have done no harm. it you get enough in your Kiev clutch should be good for another ten years, if you get too much in then you may have to undo screw nd strip and clean clutch which can be done with care, without stripping camera further.

Dont think there is too much risk of having the clutch slip too much, but it might.

Noel

 

[Ash]

No torn sprockets *touch wood*. Only frame spacing issues. I'll leave it be.

My main need right now is re-adjusting my Fed-2 who's infinity alignment is out, and vertical alignment also out.