maddoc
... likes film again.
I don`t know if this has been posted here before ....
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof.../bw400cn/main2.jhtml?pq-path=13319/1231/13402
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof.../bw400cn/main2.jhtml?pq-path=13319/1231/13402
Scrambler
Well-known
@$)&I don`t know if this has been posted here before .... http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/bw400cn/main2.jhtml?pq-path=13319/1231/13402
I generally use whatever is to hand with films, but when I want smooth tones and fine "grain" I go bw400cn. It's been unavailable locally for years so no surprise they aren't selling much.
I guess the decline in C41 outlets would hurt sales.
dcsang
Canadian & Not A Dentist
Ahhh... another one bites the dust
This was one of my fave C-41 B&W films
Dave
This was one of my fave C-41 B&W films
Dave
Pioneer
Veteran
This is very disappointing news. Another of my mainstays disappears to be replacied with an Ilford product.
The only full time Kodak product I am left with now is TMX. Perhaps it is time to start experimenting with Delta 100.
The only full time Kodak product I am left with now is TMX. Perhaps it is time to start experimenting with Delta 100.
maddoc
... likes film again.
I always use classic BW films and almost never any of the chromogenic BW films (BW400CN or XP2) but this was a special film regarding almost invisible grain and fine tones. Sad to see it go, hopefully I can find some rolls still.
zauhar
Veteran
Just bought a ton (from my perspective) of XP2, 40 rolls.
For a special application, I hope Ilford appreciates it. ;-(
Randy
For a special application, I hope Ilford appreciates it. ;-(
Randy
yossarian123
Sam I Am
Great film - too bad C41 development costs shot up so high that I don't really want to shoot my remaining rolls.
bennyng
Benny Ng
Arrggh!!! There goes my favorite C41 B&W film!!!
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
While I prefer XP2 because it's easier to print in the darkroom, I agree with all who mentioned that BW400CN has that creamy quality and -- when exposed properly, which is not hard for this film -- virtually no grain.
If Kodak can't manufacture it, they should sell the formula to those who can and willing. Ferrania, maybe?
If Kodak can't manufacture it, they should sell the formula to those who can and willing. Ferrania, maybe?
maddoc
... likes film again.
If Kodak can't manufacture it, they should sell the formula to those who can and willing. Ferrania, maybe?
I was thinking the same but asking myself, is there a profitable market for these kinds of films?
back alley
IMAGES
i much preferred illfords xp2...
farlymac
PF McFarland
I don't know what disappeared first, the consumer demand, or the processing, but if you can't even find the stuff in the stores then no wonder sales were dropping. I think the suppliers are screwing with the industry, as my local lab is always crying about their distributor doesn't have this or that film anymore. It disappeared from the grocery chain months ago, and as soon as the drug stores quit developing film, they quit selling it too.
I'm going to cherish my last few rolls of it, as I don't have the budget to go out and buy a few bricks. Maybe only use it in the half-frame models.
PF
I'm going to cherish my last few rolls of it, as I don't have the budget to go out and buy a few bricks. Maybe only use it in the half-frame models.
PF
zuiko85
Veteran
Death of a thousand cuts.
I think all Kodak films along with Kodak will be gone sooner than later. Too sad.
I think all Kodak films along with Kodak will be gone sooner than later. Too sad.
Spicy
Well-known
never real shot any CN400. started with a bunch of B&W, then read about c41 B&W one day and picked up a few rolls of XP2S.
this may sound like heresy, but it's one of the films that consistently gets me to think "damn, that's a great shot" when looking over the negative scans.
i love tri-X, but i think that XP2S just gives a bit more pop (probably because i shoot it at EI200 and pretty regularly overexpose it generously).
it just seems to reliably give me results i'm quite taken with without going out of my way to adjust my shooting style.
for sure i hope Tri-X never goes away (it would be like the corvette and the 911 going out of production the same year). maybe i should pick up a roll or two of CN400 and see if it jives? but on the other hand, i don't think i should risk my heart by falling in love with a film whose production is already over...
edit: i'm weak-willed. swung by the film shop on the way home and picked up 5 rolls of BW400CN for like $35.... now, time to shoot something
this may sound like heresy, but it's one of the films that consistently gets me to think "damn, that's a great shot" when looking over the negative scans.
i love tri-X, but i think that XP2S just gives a bit more pop (probably because i shoot it at EI200 and pretty regularly overexpose it generously).
it just seems to reliably give me results i'm quite taken with without going out of my way to adjust my shooting style.
for sure i hope Tri-X never goes away (it would be like the corvette and the 911 going out of production the same year). maybe i should pick up a roll or two of CN400 and see if it jives? but on the other hand, i don't think i should risk my heart by falling in love with a film whose production is already over...
edit: i'm weak-willed. swung by the film shop on the way home and picked up 5 rolls of BW400CN for like $35.... now, time to shoot something
Mablo
Well-known
BW400CN roll film (120) was discontinued several years ago so this announcement didn't come unexpectedly. It's also noteworthy that this is not the old US Kodak we are dealing with but Kodak Alaris which is based in UK like Ilford.
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
I stopped using BW400CN when they discontinued 120.
btgc
Veteran
Shot one roll, but honestly stopped buying chromogenic B&W when started developing B&W myself.
maddoc
... likes film again.
... and here are some good news from Ilford (20th August 2014):
ILFORD XP2 SUPER a confirmed stayer!
ILFORD PHOTO confirm no plans to discontinue XP2 SUPER Film
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/pressroom/article.asp?n=191
ILFORD XP2 SUPER a confirmed stayer!
ILFORD PHOTO confirm no plans to discontinue XP2 SUPER Film
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/pressroom/article.asp?n=191
farlymac
PF McFarland
That is good news. Now if I can only find the stuff, or get the local lab to order some in.
PF
PF
John Bragg
Well-known
Not a film that I have ever used, but still sad news. Ilford will be the only choice now, though they are committed to serving the needs of the stills photographer and not a contracting motion picture industry.
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