Kodak `Daylight' Film

[xwhatsit]

Hello,

Since I got my three little Yashicas I've been quite keen to acquire a big roll of B&W film and a little Paterson tank and have a play.

Paterson (and similar) tanks seem to be everywhere and almost given away here in NZ, as with bulk rollers; however, I'm having a lot of trouble finding 100ft reels. There's camera shop that sells them, but for the prices they have it'd be cheaper to buy and process individual C41 36-exposure rolls!

Anyway, finally saw an auction come up here for `Film stock Kodak 400ft daylight'. I understand the 400ft reel will be a bit troublesome, but I might just roll by hand in a changing bag instead. Don't care how many exposures I get.

He says it's been in dark storage for a few years. Says he'll get around to posting up photos but they're not here yet. Going by limited information there is, is `daylight' film a colour film? That's the sort of results I turn up when I google. Colour film would obviously not be as useful to me as `traditional' sort that I have a decent shot and developing myself easily.

Anyway, for the price, I might buy it anyway ($1 reserve), but I wondered if anybody knew what sort of film this might be.

Cheers.

 

[Juan Valdenebro]

Daylight means the film was made -as most slide/color negative film- to use in scenes where the light source is the sun, or day light. Tungsten films or infrared films are made to be used under other light sources...

You need to get more info, in my opinion...

Cheers,

Juan

 

[xwhatsit]

Daylight means the film was made -as most slide/color negative film- to use in scenes where the light source is the sun, or day light. Tungsten films or infrared films are made to be used under other light sources...

You need to get more info, in my opinion...

Cheers,

Juan

Yes, I'll keep bugging the fellow then 🙂

So it would seem likely it's a colour film; B&W is much less affected by tungsten lighting, I would guess?

 

[Jamie123]

It's also possible that 'daylight' refers to the bulk loading system.

 

[xwhatsit]

It's also possible that 'daylight' refers to the bulk loading system.

They'd put that on the film can? Not the bulk loader? Don't really know how those movie cameras work 😱

 

[xwhatsit]

All right, heard back, it's 5297 film, which is a colour film. 250 ISO or so.

I searched around a bit and found out that it's a ECN-2 process film, not C41, so that makes life a little difficult. I see threads on other forums relating to developing it as C41 film, but the film has a backing which needs to be removed with a pre-soak first.

Well well! If it goes for a cheap price I may get it anyway. C41 process doesn't look too difficult to do at home, it's only the expense of buying the kit here in NZ.

 

[zenza]

You sure this isn't 16mm film?

 

[Juan Valdenebro]

xwhatsit, you might know it already: if you are interested in 35mm film, from freestyle you can buy cheap and good fuji color 100 film for 2.99 a roll, that's 8 cents per shot. Even after mailing, customs and developing, i't's dirt cheap, and with that ISO you can get great tonality for landscape, street, portraits or just anything, without losing extra time and money because of any risk... Lots of GREAT B&W options with amazing prices too! (I have no relation with them, but I'm a satisfied customer)

Cheers.

Juan

 

[xwhatsit]

You sure this isn't 16mm film?

From Kodak's website, 5297 is the 35mm film and 7297 is the 16mm version. Plus he posted some photos of the can, I can see it's 35mm.



Before I go ahead and buy reams of this, I'm interested to know about purchasing things like Double-X (5222). I'm still yet to see anything of that nature here in NZ, and shipping short ends from overseas is both expensive and worries me regarding X-Rays at borders etc.

How do people who shoot 35mm movie cameras do it? I looked on Kodak's website and it would seem I'm advised to contact a sales agent and all sorts of nonsense like that -- if a young gentleman simply wants to buy 400-1000ft or Double-X (should last a while), is that too small an order? Anybody ever directly order from Kodak before? I hear the price per foot is pretty reasonable.

 

[Carlos Cruz]

From Kodak's website, 5297 is the 35mm film and 7297 is the 16mm version. Plus he posted some photos of the can, I can see it's 35mm.



Before I go ahead and buy reams of this, I'm interested to know about purchasing things like Double-X (5222). I'm still yet to see anything of that nature here in NZ, and shipping short ends from overseas is both expensive and worries me regarding X-Rays at borders etc.

How do people who shoot 35mm movie cameras do it? I looked on Kodak's website and it would seem I'm advised to contact a sales agent and all sorts of nonsense like that -- if a young gentleman simply wants to buy 400-1000ft or Double-X (should last a while), is that too small an order? Anybody ever directly order from Kodak before? I hear the price per foot is pretty reasonable.

You have a thriving cine industry in NZ, if you're interested in small quantities you should ask camera assistants for short ends, Kodak reps usually sell in boxes 10 reels each, but you might visit them and ask, maybe they have an odd roll of 5222 lying in freezer.

 

[xwhatsit]

You have a thriving cine industry in NZ, if you're interested in small quantities you should ask camera assistants for short ends, Kodak reps usually sell in boxes 10 reels each, but you might visit them and ask, maybe they have an odd roll of 5222 lying in freezer.

I spoke with a Kodak rep this morning, he quoted the equivalent of nearly $US300 for a single 400ft roll. That seems to be about double the price of what I've seen mentioned on this forum as a normal rate in the US. I assume this is because of the low quantities; he said he'd have to get it shipped from the US.

You make a good point, a few films do get made here, although I'd suppose most of them shoot digital these days. Might see if I can find some short ends here.