Kodak selling itself off?

For some reason I haven`t watched any movie in the last 5 years ... 😛

Kodak ? They should sell the digital stuff, patents etc. to the toy-making companies where it belongs to and re-start film-business, the real thing... 😀😉
 
I'm waiting for a group of people with money to buy EK film division and launch ...

"THE OBVIOUS PROJECT" a.k.a "DUH!" guaranteeing the market availability of Tri-X, Portra line and Gold 200 (my fave) into the next century.
 
I'm waiting for a group of people with money to buy EK film division and launch ...

"THE OBVIOUS PROJECT" a.k.a "DUH!" guaranteeing the market availability of Tri-X, Portra line and Gold 200 (my fave) into the next century.

Perhaps they can buy Neopan 400 from Fuji too to preserve it.
 
But will it be the same film if someone else makes it? If Kodak licenses it then they can demand the products meet a level of quality but if they sell it then it'll just be about the brand name and formula.
 
This is a phenomena that's occurring across the board.

Why do you suppose these patents are worth more $ than the Companies themselves?

It has nothing to do with production, sales figures or end use.

It's about legal extortion and gaining profits for a tiny handful of extortionists who have no interest in making anything.

Once a bulk of patents is acquired by an invisible shell group,
they begin suing every other manufacturer, for instance Fuji, for infringement and in effect extort them for huge sums of $$$,

I should say because the cost of legal defense in court is prohibitive.

So the end result is that consumers pay more across the board, competition is stifled and production is seriously curtailed.

It's been happening in many industries and now it's happening to Kodak, who I'm quite sure are the original point source of many film patents out there.

This, I'm afraid is very bad news for every film manufacturer, unless they can find enough capital to buy the Kodak patent package themselves, which isn't likely to happen since manufacturers usually have their capital tied up in production.

It seems to have gotten to the point where patent law is on the side of the extortionists.

I really hope I'm wrong about this...😱
 
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Where is the evidence that Kodak will sell patents to such a company?

If they're selling them, they'll sell to whoever has the money and the willingness to part with it. That might be a patent troll, or it might be someone else, but I doubt Kodak will give a damn who buys so long as the buyer pays the asking price.
 
Whatever happens, I have 400' of Eastman Double-X and 100' of Arista Premium 100 (AKA Plus-X) in my freezer. At the rate that I use it, the Double-X will last me three. I probably could get a year or two out of the rebranded Plus-X considering that I have an almost full roll of Legacy Pro 100 in my bulk loader right now. After that I can switch to HP5+ and FP4+ if Kodak stops selling film.
 
For most movies I watched, 3D added something to the movie. There was one where 2D would have been ok too. I like 3D movies but only in a real movie theater.

3D is not being used properly. Saw Captain America in 3D with my 14yr old son over the summer. It was the usual Marvel super hero fare. But was struck me that this - more than any other film, it really immersed you in the period. I felt like I was "in" the US in 1940's... Done correctly, it is really immersive. The was the strength of Avatar. The plot was nothing special but many wanted to just hang around the cool alien planet. I often thought Hammer should shoot a Dracula in 3D. It can be great for this kind of period film making.

On the subject of Kodak. I was listening to NPR on the way into work this morning. The postmaster was discussing how the USPS is losing billions due to the internet, especially bill-paying. Nobody is paying bills with 1st class mail. The analogy was made that this was like film and that first class mail in the US will become a "niche" product like "film is..."
Kinda sad that outside our bubble, this is how it's perceived.
Kodak?
Like bread in the toaster - on its way to being toast.
Sad. Hope this doesn't happen for a while but I'm not optimistic.
 
On my way to school there's an old Kodak-sign for some shop that used to be there before I moved there, and going by it always makes me really sad that film isn't the norm anymore. At this point in time I know of three places I can get film in Oslo,

Some days I will, for no real good reason, wish that digital was never invented and that everyone still used film. This is weird because outside of one-off happenings, I haven't used a film camera since I was ten or something up until this fall.
 
I just can't muster any nostalgia for film. I spent too many decades fighting its limitations. Now, it seems, its limitations have become its appeal for many. I'll shoot Tri-X occasionally in my film cameras until it's gone, but can't say I'll miss it.
 
Luckily for Kodak, they are still the main medium for feature films. Also, even most films that shoot digital, have their movies transferred to film for theatrical release. Even with digital projection, most theaters still have film projectors.
 
Keith you're right I shouldn't have asked this questions as it always leads to a digital vs Film debate which wasn't my intention. Sorry.

What a lot of people seem to forget is that Kodak also lost the IN/IP market, as most films shot on MP-Film use the DI (Digital Intermediate) process instead of Internegatives or Positives. Furthermore Kodak might be the King when it comes to shooting stock but not when it comes to release Stock where it faces strong competition by the likes of Fuji and an old friend, Agfa-Geveart (most films in India are released on Agfa CP30 or on Fuji Film). New Line Cinema releases all its productions on Fuji material, and it's not the only Studio to do so.
Also only one or two release prints are struck for archival purposes and not thousands like in the good old times of Analogue only cinema.
Imho Digital Cinema has definetely hurt Kodak but not as much as the stupidity of it's managers.

Dominik
 
I just can't muster any nostalgia for film. I spent too many decades fighting its limitations. Now, it seems, its limitations have become its appeal for many. I'll shoot Tri-X occasionally in my film cameras until it's gone, but can't say I'll miss it.

Digital has limitations too, you just don't realize it yet...

hey, didn't I see that black cat passing a moment ago? 😎
 
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