bwcolor
Veteran
kdemas
Enjoy Life.
This is getting grim.
40oz
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"Kodak, synonymous with film photography for more than one hundred years, has struggled to adapt to the digital age and has not made a profit since 2007."
Doesn't Kodak still provide digital sensors for most digital cameras? Where are Canon and Nikon going to get sensors for their bodies if Kodak stops making them? Is it remotely possible that the wise analysts that claimed the only way Kodak could survive in the "digital age" was to pursue digital imaging technology were talking out their ass?
Doesn't Kodak still provide digital sensors for most digital cameras? Where are Canon and Nikon going to get sensors for their bodies if Kodak stops making them? Is it remotely possible that the wise analysts that claimed the only way Kodak could survive in the "digital age" was to pursue digital imaging technology were talking out their ass?
Brian Legge
Veteran
Whose stock hasn't been slammed the last few days? I wonder how much of the hit has been everyone cutting risk at once.
At least the price of silver is way down. If that correction holds, its good for film users in general.
At least the price of silver is way down. If that correction holds, its good for film users in general.
Rogier
Rogier Willems
Sell off the sensor devision.
Focus on core business. Make film.
Innovate new films for the digital age.
Make cheap films for Holga's
Focus on core business. Make film.
Innovate new films for the digital age.
Make cheap films for Holga's
DerekF
Established
Apparently, inflation has not caught up at Kodak yet.
sprokitt
Established
Actually, the shareholders would do better to sell the whole company knowing the only piece an aquifers wants is the sensor group. that would leave e remaining dirty work of killing and piecing out the rest of the company to the new owner.
As for analysts, they are only paid to look at $$, and right now the pond is shrinking for Kodak.
A sad story. Just more evidence that the days of film are extremely numbered.
keytarjunkie
no longer addicted
I believe that part of the article is wrong, due to the fact that the wording seems weird and because the kodak representative talks about how they certainly didn't blow through 957 MILLION dollars in june.
Freakscene
Obscure member
Canon makes their own sensors. Nikon sensors are made by Sony and some by Nikon. Kodak only make sensors for a few specialist manufacturers, but they do get royalties on their patents from all the manufacturers. The main concern if Kodak went bust would be where Leica would source their sensors for the M9.
Marty
ZlatkoBatistich
Established
They don't. If Kodak made sensors for Canon and Nikon, they would be doing pretty well. Leica must be considering other sensor suppliers in the event that Kodak goes bust.
Phil_F_NM
Camera hacker
So Leica is making a bit of money right now. They should buy the sensor division... In a perfect world they'd buy the film division too.
And in a perfect world I'd have a 1967 275 GTB Ferrari.
But now I ride a bike and take the subway...
Sad times. I'm buying up 5222 Kodak XX in preparation!
Phil Forrest
And in a perfect world I'd have a 1967 275 GTB Ferrari.
But now I ride a bike and take the subway...
Sad times. I'm buying up 5222 Kodak XX in preparation!
Phil Forrest
sparrow6224
Well-known
Someone at some point will liberate the film from all this digital R&D. It's a very respectable global business that is not unprofitable on its own; it's not huge however and growth prospects are minimal. It's definitely something for a small company to do, not a giant multinational.
I believe btw that SONY makes many of Nikon's sensors. Canon I don't know.
I believe btw that SONY makes many of Nikon's sensors. Canon I don't know.
Rogier
Rogier Willems
Yeah right, if Leica would buy the film devision a roll of Leica Tr-X would cost $25........
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
Very sensible words spoken here, Sir! Someone willing to restructure this part of Kodak into a smaller company would have nice income from it, especially if those future Leica&Tri-X purists decide to stick with it.
And if not, Efke and Foma will take Kodaks seat happily. They are that smaller company already.
DamenS
Well-known
Sony makes all of Nikon's sensors (with additional design input from Nikon, but even the d3s is actually primarily designed and fabbed by Sony). Canon make their own sensors. Panasonic make the Micro 4/3rds sensors (and sell them to Olympus). Pentax use Sony sensors. Only Leica and a couple of Medium Format manufacturers seem to use Kodak sensors. Sony would be the largest sensor designer manufacturer and Leica would be looking to use them even if Kodak didn't "go under" for their great High ISO, Live View capabilities (including potential EVF) and cheaper costings.
Frontman
Well-known
Kodak has not really earned any income in recent years in the traditional sense, yet they have received a fair amount of cash flow through patents an litigation. Though Kodak was slow to embrace digital technology outright, they do have patents on a lot of basic digital technology used by many other manufacturers.
As for the stock devaluation, everyone got hit hard last week. Look for a little improvement in a day or two when the market swings the other way.
As for the stock devaluation, everyone got hit hard last week. Look for a little improvement in a day or two when the market swings the other way.
Nikon probably sells the steppers to Sony that Sony uses to make sensors for Nikon. Weird world innit
ian_watts
Ian Watts
All our days are numbered. I don't think Kodak's problems tell us very much about the health of the film market at all. You need to delve deeper to understand what has gone wrong at Kodak.
robert blu
quiet photographer
I do not feel qualified to comment the possible strategies but just hink that in the last weeks most of shares of many companies drop their values very much. Of course this does not solve the Kodak problems and I understand that the shareholders desire a profit.
robert
robert
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Most share movements reflect partially-witted hysteria by the financially overprivileged who haven't the faintest idea of what they're investing in.
Cheers,
R.
Cheers,
R.