Dante_Stella
Rex canum cattorumque
Just noticed a propack of TMY 120 had jumped, apparently in the last month or two, from 25.5 to 32 per propack at B&H and Adorama.
Was this increase announced somewhere?
Dante
Was this increase announced somewhere?
Dante
Ted Striker
Well-known
Wow. A 25% increase is pretty huge. Hard to blame Kodak though as they need to increase their cash flow. Buy the film at this price or don't buy it at all.
Dante_Stella
Rex canum cattorumque
I keep telling myself that when I finish the last 100 rolls of TMY that I have, I will quit film, but where film prices have been passable, I've been replenishing the supply. On the one hand, there has to be a price where the doomsday clock starts - but on the other, $6.50 for a roll of film is still not more than a really expensive coffee or cigarettes for some people.
Ted Striker
Well-known
Film is only going to get more expensive so buying now saves money in the future. If I still shot TMY, I would buy up as much stock as I could to reduce my overall costs.
Corran
Well-known
TMY has always been very expensive in LF. When 120 TMX finally got back into production, the price was much more than before, IIRC. It seems they have just normalized the price to TMX. If they made the upcharge from TMX to TMY similar to 4x5 sheets, I would expect the price to eventually hit $40 for a propack.
I've never thought TMY was some amazing, indispensable film, though some do think that - so I am just fine with HP5+ and a low-grain developer.
I've never thought TMY was some amazing, indispensable film, though some do think that - so I am just fine with HP5+ and a low-grain developer.
Ted Striker
Well-known
I've always used TMAX400 film. Until the paper fiasco ruined the experience for me.
Dante_Stella
Rex canum cattorumque
Film always gets more expensive, but that's because we have long memories of its being cheap - memories untethered to precisely when it was "cheap." For example, TMY was $2.50 a roll about 13 years ago... but that doesn't account for what $2.50 would be with inflation.
Dante
sepiareverb
genius and moron
New backing paper likely didn’t come cheap.
Steve M.
Veteran
A sudden 25% price increase may not add to Kodak's revenue, it might push photographers to other films. Freestyle Photo alone lists 69 different types of film in 120. Their Arista EDU Ultra is a really good film, and it's a bargain at $4.29 a roll. I love shooting it and developing in Mic-X full strength, but D76 is good too.
Dan Daniel
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Freestyle has TMX and TMY at $28-29/5 pack. For now, at least.
Ted Striker
Well-known
Nor the loss of sales during that crisis.
ptpdprinter
Veteran
Film is only going to get more expensive, so if you want to shoot it, you may as well suck it up and get on with it.
Filter Factor
Established
Maybe, maybe not. One thing is certain: Film WILL get more expensive if we don't buy it, or don't buy it as much. ALL the manufacturers depend on us to keep the machines running. Not just Kodak... Fuji, Ilford, Foma, Adox, Cinestill, Arista, Shanghai, Bergger, Rollei... Ferrania has a 120 film in the works, etc, etc. Much optimism last week at Photokina! Film is on the rebound and we can all do our part. Fuji's Instax system is enormously successful and there is no reason the "traditional" formats can't do so as well.
Cheers,
Robert
Ted Striker
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Why was there optimism about film at Photokina? I have not heard one report about film from that convention aside from Fuji's INSTAX. As we know, Fujifilm has no interest in any film aside from INSTAX so the success of that film means nothing for non-instant film.
What else happened at Photokina?
giganova
Well-known
Why don't you buy Ilford FP-4? Its $2/roll cheaper!
Ted Striker
Well-known
It's not 400 speed! The OP was discussing TMAX400.
HHPhoto
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I've been there. We've also had a very nice get-together with other rff members there.
Optimism: Because all companies there making business in traditional film photography were reporting significantly increasing demand.
New products were presented. And new companies showed up there. The film revival is getting stronger.
Sorry, that is absolutely wrong. Again the same misinformation.
Fujifilm has given a clear statement at Photokina that they remain committed to standard film and continue to produce it. It was printed on the film exhibition walls, and on the film programme flyers which everyone could pick up. They had the best presentation of their standard films since 2012. A real, obvious and positive difference compared the the two Photokinas before. Even some sheet film formats (reversal) are back. Another clear signal that Fujifilm is continuing with standard film.
Furthermore they have introduced
- another new instax camera
- another new RA-4 silver-halide color photo paper called Maxima, with increased color stability of 40% (!) and increased Dmax of 20%
- they had huge exhibitions not only on their booth, but also in other halls promoting real photo prints - to encourage photographers to get the real thing instead of low-quality computer-monitor viewing - their activities in this regard were amazing
- they have also exhibited their RA-4 minilab printing machines.
The Fujifilm booth was excellent. One of best - probably the best - of the whole fair.
A lot. It would be a waste of time for me to list all the other very positive news for film photographers.
Cheers, Jan
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Ted Striker
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Any photos or links to this show of support?
Edit: I went searching for said show of support from Fujifilm and came up 100% empty. Even Fujifilm's own publication on their Photokina exhibits makes no mention whatsoever of traditional still film. As I would have guessed, only INSTAX gets a mention.
http://www.fujifilm.com/news/n180911.html