Ronald M
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For sure.
Back when introduced, Kodak said it was tested and engineered with D76 as the developer.
Internet is full of misinformation.
Kodak T-max films and conventional developers
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For sure.
Back when introduced, Kodak said it was tested and engineered with D76 as the developer.
Internet is full of misinformation.
lawrence
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But I think I'm right in saying that Xtol was introduced a little bit later than the Tmax films and that it became the recommended developer. Or is this just more 'misinformation'?
DNG
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At 800, Tmax 400 in HC110 1:60 at 12.5 was hard to tell I shoot it at 800, though 12.5m may have been a tad short in developer time 14m may have been better for 800 with my setup, the deep shadows blocked up a little.
I am going to run a roll at 1600, and try 16m... I will report back with some samples. I can't see why not, at 800, the grain and contrast is great!
DNG
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Tmax introduced 1982 https://www.ephotozine.com/article/a-brief-history-of-film-118
Xtol introduced 1996 http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/xtol/
Hope these are accurate :angel:
lynnb
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Has anyone here developed 35mm TMAX3200 exposed at 1600? I have quite a few rolls to develop; a friend is letting me try some TMAX developer but I'm also interested in other recommendations, preferably with examples. If I hadn't the offer of TMAX developer I was thinking of using Foma Excel (which is apparently similar to XTOL). I don't want the result to have excessive grain.
Out of interest, what exposure ISO / developer combination would give pleasing results with 35mm TMAX3200?
Background: I normally expose HP5+ at box speed or 800, and Tri-X and develop in XTOL or D76 and like the results. Occasionally I use Fomapan 200.
I guess I'm asking what is the best way to play with TMAX3200.
Out of interest, what exposure ISO / developer combination would give pleasing results with 35mm TMAX3200?
Background: I normally expose HP5+ at box speed or 800, and Tri-X and develop in XTOL or D76 and like the results. Occasionally I use Fomapan 200.
I guess I'm asking what is the best way to play with TMAX3200.
Corran
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The best developer for TMZ that I've found is in fact T-Max developer, despite the fact that I don't use T-Max developer for TMX or TMY. It is finer grained and has better shadow detail than other developers I have tried, though Acufine has also worked fairly well, as it does with pretty much everything. I usually expose TMZ between 800 and 1600.
13Promet
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I've also shot it at EI 800 several times and developed it in ID-11 with very good results.
Now i'm on holidays in Malaysia and I've shot a copule of rolls rated at 800 at night, but unfortunately some of the best shots are underexposed.
I'd try to develop them at IE 1200-1600 in ID-11, but it would be interesting and useful to know about others' experiences first.
Thank you for your support, I'm very curious to see your samples!
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DNG
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Almost done editing my Tmax 400 @ 1600... HC110 H (1:60) 16m @ 20c, (10ml + 590ml = 600ml)
EDIT: Samples
CC-Lr-01-January 05, 2016- Pioneer Pk-NikonEM-N24-Tmax400at1600-HC110H16m001 by Peter Arbib -My General Galleries, on Flickr
CC-Lr-04-January 05, 2016- Pioneer Pk-NikonEM-N24-Tmax400at1600-HC110H16m007 by Peter Arbib -My General Galleries, on Flickr
CC-Lr-07-January 05, 2016- Pioneer Pk-NikonEM-N24-Tmax400at1600-HC110H16m012
by Peter Arbib -My General Galleries, on Flickr
13Promet
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They look pretty good, indeed: as far as I can tell looking at them on my smartphone screen, it seems that enough shadow detail is retained.
I will definitely go for it in ID-11, which should be no worse than HC-110 for pushing.
Thank you, Peter!
I will definitely go for it in ID-11, which should be no worse than HC-110 for pushing.
Thank you, Peter!
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How does TMAX work with Diafine?
ABrosig
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Curious if you one-shot, or do you reuse/replenish your developer? I've done it both ways (when I routinely worked with D76 - I'm an HC110 guy for now) and always found the expense of one-shot prohibitive.
ABrosig
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I agree. That was our go-to combo at every newspaper I worked at back in the film days. Could get some astounding results, even though the grain looked like basketballs! Still, we were basically printing on paper towels (newsprint), so it didn't really matter.
All the info I can remember being given when it first came out was the TMax developer was primarily designed as a push/compensating developer. But that was a long time ago and I've slept a few times since then. I may be misremembering (or just plain wrong-I often am).
Ronald M
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You are correct, except I had nothing but trouble with small and large packs of Xtol. I was on a first name basis with the tech folks at 800 242 2424. That be Yellow father help line.
I went back to D76 I make from raw chemicals. I make a liter at a time.
Who needs 5 gallons that does not show as bad when it is. Yes it happened with week old batch that tested fine when 1 day old. Ruined some of the best pic I ever made. The tech people there said there is no VALID home test for activity.
I don`t remember that Xtol was better except that the environment was better off. Well cows are bad, pigs are bad, chicken is bad, heating my house is bad, and driving my car is bad. I am not to give up any.
Fotohuis
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For modern technology films I can recommend:
Xtol/Fomadon Excel W27 (Kodak/Foma)
PC-TEA (P. Gainer)
Tmax dev. (Kodak)
DD-X (Ilford)
FX-37/FX-39 (G. Crawley)
Ultrafin T-Plus (Tetenal)
Also suitable:
D76/ID11/Fomadon P W37 (Kodak/Ilford/Foma)
HC-110 (Kodak)
What is THE best: There is no THE best .... :bang:
Xtol/Fomadon Excel W27 (Kodak/Foma)
PC-TEA (P. Gainer)
Tmax dev. (Kodak)
DD-X (Ilford)
FX-37/FX-39 (G. Crawley)
Ultrafin T-Plus (Tetenal)
Also suitable:
D76/ID11/Fomadon P W37 (Kodak/Ilford/Foma)
HC-110 (Kodak)
What is THE best: There is no THE best .... :bang:
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Fotohuis
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Easy and cheap available for me:
Excel W27, FX-37, PC-TEA, HC-110, D76/ID11/Fomadon P W37.
Excel W27, FX-37, PC-TEA, HC-110, D76/ID11/Fomadon P W37.
lawrence
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It might be worth mentioning that FX-39, previously available from Paterson, is currently available from Adox. A wonderful developer IMHO.
Bingley
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TMax 400 works OK. I rate it at iso 500 with Diafine. Here's a sample:
Sunday morning walk by bingley0522, on FlickrI don't have a sample of TMax 100 in Diafine, but I don't know why you would use that particular film/developer combination. TMax 100 in HC 110 dil. h is sublime. I shoot it at box speed and develop at 12:30 mins., or at iso 50 and develop for 16 mins. The tonal range and detail are fantastic.
Fotohuis
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Indeed FX-39 is available: Half content now, 500ml and about the double of price. I will make my own FX-37 for less then €1 /liter. 🙂
tho60
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I have tried the Fomadon P with Fomapan 200 (also a new crystal tech. film), but I was not contended with the results. "Dark in dark" pictures, without details in the black.
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