Konica 50/1.2 or the new Nokton 50/1.1?

[imush]

Which superfast (<1.4) 50mm would you prefer and why? I kept Noctilux out of the poll on purpose.

 

[maddoc]

Out of the choices in this poll, I like the photos taken with the Hexanon 50/1.2 best and the photos taken with the CV 50/1.1 not very much (especially for a lens of this price).

 

[imush]

Well, CV 50/1.1 is still cheaper than the remaining M-Hexanons by a factor of 2 or so. Noktilux, whatever its qualities, is out of bounds for an average nonprofessional photographer's financial sanity.

 

[raid]

I have the Canon 50/1.2 and not the other lenses listed, so my favorite 1.2 lens right now is the Canon 50/1.2. It is more affordable than the rest of the 1.2 lenses or faster.

 

[LeicaTom]

....Sure everyone here`s seen this before ~ one of my personal fav`s with the Canon shot on "ole trusty" my Wetzlar M6......
*I don`t know why this photo won`t link directly on this thread, but just click on the link to see the photo* 🙂

I`m an advocate for the Canon f1.2, when it`s calibrated and adjusted to work on a body, then it`s images are unstoppable.......I`ve ALWAYS preferred it over the Noctilux, and the Hexanon.

That new Nokton I`m not impressed with at all, the photos I`ve seen so far don`t have any feeling, and the signature`s not pleasing as the Canon`s is.

As I see it, with everything photography, it`s not always the lens or equipment that makes the picture it starts out with the ability of the photographer, the subject matter, how it`s composed, having just the "eye" for things and then the finished result.......

You can have the most expensive equipment in the world and still take a snapshot, alot of a lenses performance has to do with what each individual photographer can pull out of it.

I use the Canon f1.2 as an art tool and it produces just what I want it too, it`s jewel in the rough and STILL at affordable prices.
(but not for long, when people really catch onto it).

Happy Shooting!

Tom

 

[__hh]

Just like every other "which lens" poll, the results will be biased and will reflect the actual number of people who has that particular lens (we all tend to defend our ownership choices).

It would be interesting to read views of people who are contemplating buying a fast 50 and who does not own one at the moment.

For me, I think the answer will be - it depends on the your selection criteria:

a. prestige/name/investment-potential/rarity
b. build/optical quality, looks and tactile feel
c. affordability
d. combination of the above (likely) - however, our weighting values of the above will still be different.

 

[awilder]

Considering the Hex is smaller, weighs less and probably has a higher build quality with better optical performance given it's slightly slower, I'd consider it first. If speed and price is the most important criteria, I'd consider the 50/1.1.

 

[gdi]

Considering the Hex is smaller, weighs less and probably has a higher build quality with better optical performance given it's slightly slower, I'd consider it first. If speed and price is the most important criteria, I'd consider the 50/1.1.

I would agree with that - the Hex will cost about 1.6 times the CV and I imagine it will be of a significantly better build. But, I wouldn't count on the CV actually being faster - my CV 35 1.2 is noticeably slower than my Hex 1.2.

Is the Hex faster than 1.2 or the CV slower than 1.2? I don't know, they are both damn fast. 😀

 

[gdi]

....Sure everyone here`s seen this before ~ one of my personal fav`s with the Canon shot on "ole trusty" my Wetzlar M6......
*I don`t know why this photo won`t link directly on this thread, but just click on the link to see the photo* 🙂

I`m an advocate for the Canon f1.2, when it`s calibrated and adjusted to work on a body, then it`s images are unstoppable.......I`ve ALWAYS preferred it over the Noctilux, and the Hexanon.

That new Nokton I`m not impressed with at all, the photos I`ve seen so far don`t have any feeling, and the signature`s not pleasing as the Canon`s is.

As I see it, with everything photography, it`s not always the lens or equipment that makes the picture it starts out with the ability of the photographer, the subject matter, how it`s composed, having just the "eye" for things and then the finished result.......

You can have the most expensive equipment in the world and still take a snapshot, alot of a lenses performance has to do with what each individual photographer can pull out of it.

I use the Canon f1.2 as an art tool and it produces just what I want it too, it`s jewel in the rough and STILL at affordable prices.
(but not for long, when people really catch onto it).

Happy Shooting!

Tom

I keep hoping you'll get your hands on an 0.95! 😀

 

[35mmdelux]

For some a fast lens will be a fast lens. The Super-Nokton fotos Ive seen have not been taken under seriously low light conditions. The jury remains out.

In the end buy what you can afford. For alot of people $1000 is better than $6500 (Noct). Sometimes having low light capability is crucial (photo-journalist) whatever its other characteristics and makes the diff between capturing a workable image or not.

 

[LeicaTom]

I keep hoping you'll get your hands on an 0.95! 😀

Well, Gary I sort of have a open offer to anyone, who has a Minty Full CLA`d
1.1 Million Leica M3 and a "VIRGIN" non TV f0.95 plus $1,000 cash for one of my
1945 Leica IIIC K grey`s (US Army ones) ~ I would consider that sort of cash/trade, still not too sure that the Canon`s worth the extra stops.....but it`s worth trying anyway, I`m sure I would get some pretty kool looking Retro pinups shot with one.

My offers still open, and a very fair one, considering how rare the original matching numbers IIIC K`s are doing now, so if you know anyone, who`s got that combo, I`m ready to deal......

Till then I guess I`ll push the f1.2 as much as it will go 😉

Tom

 

[Keith]

I have to go with the Konica ... I have two Konica lenses and the build and image quality are outstanding.

Also with the release of the new CV the Konica 1.2 prices should drop a little.

The Canon doesn't rate in this group IMO ... it has too many quirks!

 

[imush]

I have to go with the Konica ... I have two Konica lenses and the build and image quality are outstanding.

Also with the release of the new CV the Konica 1.2 prices should drop a little.

The Canon doesn't rate in this group IMO ... it has too many quirks!

Not sure the Hex price will drop, they are not making more and there are not many around.

As for the Canon, I included it because I knew that there exist people who swear by it. We see them here.

I do not own any of the above lenses, but am thinking of buying one within a year or so.

 

[taxi38]

would be nice if Tom or Sean or both could do a practical users comparison.no conclusions,just photos of the same thing.

 

[Keith]

Not sure the Hex price will drop, they are not making more and there are not many around.

As for the Canon, I included it because I knew that there exist people who swear by it. We see them here.

I do not own any of the above lenses, but am thinking of buying one within a year or so.

I swear by mine also ... but occasionally it shows it's age in tricky conditions! 😛

 

[24mgdriver]

first new pictures with the 1.1 Nokton

first new pictures with the 1.1 Nokton

look at this :
http://bophoto.typepad.com/bophoto/2009/07/voightlander-50mm-11-its-here.html

found at l-forum

 

[johannielscom]

Considering the Hex is smaller, weighs less and probably has a higher build quality with better optical performance given it's slightly slower, I'd consider it first. If speed and price is the most important criteria, I'd consider the 50/1.1.

Well, from the filter size, I'd say the M-Hex absolutely isn't smaller, since the Nokton needs 58mm filters and the M-Hex needs 62mm. Probably, the M-Hex is heavier too. Surely its built better, there's hardly anything built as solid as a Konica lens. And, most importantly, it is the better lens of the choices given, although I DO like the Canon 50/1.2.


And, I'm selling my spare Hexar RF Limited Edition kit (see signature link), but since it's the best affordable set on RFF and eBay at the moment anyway, I will surely not drop prices. Let the others go first!😀

 

[f16sunshine]

The Hex and Canon are both in my kit currently.
As Johan mentioned. It is hard to imagine a better build quality than a M-Hex lens has. I will not be going for a Nokton. If someone can find the Hex for it's now usual price of around $1500 I say buy it over the Nokton without thinking twice.
The Canon I love but I don't feel it is in this category (poll). The signature of the lens is not the modern style. I would not trade it for any of the modern lenses. Not that it is that good but, it is unique like a Summarit 1.5/50 or old Sonnar is unique.

 

[awilder]

The Hex is definitely smaller weighing in at under 400g and from the pictures I've seen appears shorter than the CV 50/1.1.

 

[Krosya]

Well, from the filter size, I'd say the M-Hex absolutely isn't smaller, since the Nokton needs 58mm filters and the M-Hex needs 62mm. Probably, the M-Hex is heavier too. Surely its built better, there's hardly anything built as solid as a Konica lens. And, most importantly, it is the better lens of the choices given, although I DO like the Canon 50/1.2.


And, I'm selling my spare Hexar RF Limited Edition kit (see signature link), but since it's the best affordable set on RFF and eBay at the moment anyway, I will surely not drop prices. Let the others go first!😀

It may be the best,(yet I wonder what makes it best?), but its not so affordable when converted to USD, unfortunately, or I'd buy it. Oh well, I'll keep looking. Plus all I really need is the lens anyway, as I have a couple of Hexars already. 😉