straight up and with my limited experience, I've come to prefer the Ilford over the Kodak, but I'm not too fond of the c-41 b&w in general. I haven't shot the 400 at ei 200, so maybe that's why. I'll have to give it a try. I'm looking forward to your pictures. What I'm not fond of is what happens in the high midtones. Micheal's image of the fences and ivy, for me, shows what is typical of the film. The fence on the right (redwood?) looks great, while the light greys in the ivy and on the painted fence seem a little muted or muddy. BTW, Micheal the image is a great tone and texture study, and Marc the Ilford comparison on your site is well done.